iPad Kindle for iOS has been updated

Kindle for iOS has been updated with a few features:

• Multiple color options for highlights
• Light level is saved between sessions now
• End of book options added

[JSWolf]

Margins are still stupid on an iPhone.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Margins are still stupid on an iPhone.

Probably always will be... This seems to be one of those things Amazon refuses to change. I've no clue why they are so stubborn on this issue.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Probably always will be... This seems to be one of those things Amazon refuses to change. I've no clue why they are so stubborn on this issue.

I know lots of people keep requesting smaller/no margins and Amazon keeps refusing. This is one of the reasons I won't have a Kindle. I just don't like all that wasted screen space.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Probably always will be... This seems to be one of those things Amazon refuses to change. I've no clue why they are so stubborn on this issue.

But so many reading apps have this issue. It is as if they are just copying each other.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Probably always will be... This seems to be one of those things Amazon refuses to change. I've no clue why they are so stubborn on this issue.

Are they being stubborn? Do the devs of the app even know it's an issue (as in lots of people complaining to the right place)? I don't know the answer, just throwing it out there.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by tomsem

But so many reading apps have this issue. It is as if they are just copying each other.

iBooks is also using stupid margins. Bluefire is pretty good.

[Faterson]

I find all three unusable (Kindle, iBooks, Bluefire).

[kyteflyer]

Seriously guys, what do you want in margins? Jammed up against the edge of the page? Tomes and i2Reader can do that. I hate it. In Stanza, I set my margins to around the same size as those which are native to Kindle...

I don't find the 15 or so pixels Kindle uses for margins on the iPhone a drain or a drag. Its not stupid. In relation to the size of the screen it makes perfect sense to me. Top and Bottom could lose a bit but its not the end of the earth, and is still perfectly serviceable. The iBooks margins are much bigger than Kindle's, but still not as big as they used to be, and I can read in iBooks now, where I was unable to, before.

So again, I ask... how small do you want your margins to be? Or is it just that you don't like not being able to set it yourselves?

Originally Posted by kyteflyer

Seriously guys, what do you want in margins? Jammed up against the edge of the page? Tomes and i2Reader can do that. I hate it. In Stanza, I set my margins to around the same size as those which are native to Kindle...

I don't find the 15 or so pixels Kindle uses for margins on the iPhone a drain or a drag. Its not stupid. In relation to the size of the screen it makes perfect sense to me. Top and Bottom could lose a bit but its not the end of the earth, and is still perfectly serviceable. The iBooks margins are much bigger than Kindle's, but still not as big as they used to be, and I can read in iBooks now, where I was unable to, before.

So again, I ask... how small do you want your margins to be? Or is it just that you don't like not being able to set it yourselves?

Five or fewer pixels would suit me fine. As long as I can see a tiny sliver of white between the letter and the edge of the screen. Reason: I want as many words per line as is possible so the word spacing will look a bit more normal. I'm sorry if you cannot understand this concept. Perhaps you've spent too much time in the litter box sniffing pooh.

[Faterson]

The margins are unacceptable the way they are in those apps.

But equally annoying is, indeed, the arrogance of the assumption that "one size fits all". "We're gonna set your margins for ya, folks, and you can just put up and shut up. Take it or leave it. We don't give a damn about what you find pleasant or useful while reading books. We're here to sell you books, not to make the reading of those books pleasant or useful for you. That's of secondary importance to us -- in fact, we couldn't care less about that, and we're only going through the motions of caring about it, because that's what our PR strategy demands."

This contempt for the user, for the reader's needs and preferences, permeates both iBooks and the Kindle app. It's not just about page margins -- the same neglect is there for pretty much every feature you might expect out of an e-reader in 2013. Which is why iBooks and the Kindle app are such lame, bad-quality e-readers, and unusable for me.

[kyteflyer]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Five or fewer pixels would suit me fine. As long as I can see a tiny sliver of white between the letter and the edge of the screen. Reason: I want as many words per line as is possible so the word spacing will look a bit more normal..

You could have stopped right there. The rest was flat out rude.