New Kindle and PID

AlexBell · 05-23-2011, 04:54 AM

I've just bought a new Kindle. When I bought DRM'd ebooks to read on my Bookeen Cybook I had to enter a PID to get past the DRM.

Do Kindle's have PIDs? How do I read a DRM'd ebook on a Kindle? I have an account with Amazon.

Regards, Alex

Solicitous · 05-23-2011, 06:31 AM

I think you'll have to register your Kindle to your account. I see in another thread you don't have wifi, so you will need to log into your Amazon account from your PC, goto "Manage your Kindle" and hit Register. You'll need the serial code of your Kindle.

From there you should be able to buy Amazon ebooks, download them from your account and copy to your Kindle via USB.

Unfortunately I can't help about the Kindle PID.

Mike L · 05-23-2011, 07:23 AM

Solicitous is completely correct. You just have to register your Kindle to your Amazon account. To do that, you need to know your Kindle's serial number (not the same as its PID). The serial number is printed on the back of the device.

ApK · 05-23-2011, 11:51 AM

Alex, if you mean reading DRMed Kindle books from Amazon, then the posts above are correct, certainly, but I'd think that would be pretty obvious (and the Kindle itself pretty much walks you through that depending on the condition it was in when you got it).
Were you perhaps asking about reading DRMed mobis from sources OTHER than Amazon?

ApK

DiapDealer · 05-23-2011, 12:00 PM

The device PID for Kindles that have software versions greater than or equal to 2.5 would only be needed in some very, very specific circumstances. As others have said, it's not necessary at all for Amazon purchases... and you probably still don't have to worry about it even if you start "branching out" and using other ebook sellers.

AlexBell · 05-24-2011, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApK

Alex, if you mean reading DRMed Kindle books from Amazon, then the posts above are correct, certainly, but I'd think that would be pretty obvious (and the Kindle itself pretty much walks you through that depending on the condition it was in when you got it).
Were you perhaps asking about reading DRMed mobis from sources OTHER than Amazon?

ApK

Yes, I bought several books from Fictionwise, and want to download them again for use on the Kindle - especially the updated LOTR. I should have been more clear in my own mind before posting, and then the post would made more sense.

Regards, Alex

AlexBell · 05-24-2011, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike L

Solicitous is completely correct. You just have to register your Kindle to your Amazon account. To do that, you need to know your Kindle's serial number (not the same as its PID). The serial number is printed on the back of the device.

Thanks, Solicitous and Mike. I bought the Kindle through my Amazon account, and according to the manual this should have registered it automatically. But it didn't, so I'll follow your advice.

Regards, Alex

DiapDealer · 05-24-2011, 06:15 AM

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Yes, I bought several books from Fictionwise, and want to download them again for use on the Kindle - especially the updated LOTR. I should have been more clear in my own mind before posting, and then the post would made more sense.

If it and your other purchases from Fictionwise are DRM'ed, your only real choice is to remove the DRM before loading it onto your Kindle. The only DRM the Kindle will recognize/use/allow is Amazon's own.

We used to be able to give Fictionwise our Kindle's device PID to download an encrypted mobi, but even then, you still had to "tweak" the DRM to get it to actually work on the Kindle. I don't think that even works anymore--but I could be wrong.

The most recent copies of the kindlepid script that are floating around will generate a device PID for the Kindle 3, but that PID just won't do you any good any more (except in rare circumstances).

ApK · 05-24-2011, 09:23 AM

DD can correct me if I'm wrong, but you could still use the device PID if you wanted to CONTINUE buying DRMed mobis or borrowing library mobis.
You would add the PID to your account on the book site, and also configure the appropriate deDRMing tool with the same PID. I guess ANY PID would work in that scenario, even a made up one or the one from your previous device, but using your real one lends credibility....

calvin · 05-24-2011, 11:34 AM

You can get your Kindle PID at this Website:

http://kindletools.prestonlee.com/

I have tried it with the National Library Singapore, (http://singapore.lib.overdrive.com) entered the above generated Kindle PID and the book downloaded was readable on the kindle as protected content!

ApK · 05-24-2011, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvin

You can get your Kindle PID at this Website:

http://kindletools.prestonlee.com/

I have tried it with the National Library Singapore, (http://singapore.lib.overdrive.com) entered the above generated Kindle PID and the book downloaded was readable on the kindle as protected content!

Did you put the downloaded file into Calibre (or do anything else with it) first, or did you download it to your PC and put it DIRECTLY on your Kindle?

I could have sworn doing directly had worked for me in the recent past, even after the breaking change from Amazon a few months ago, but in subsequent tests I could not get it to worked unless I put it through Calibre (with some third party plugins) first.

If you did it directly, please tell me what title it was so I can try it too.

ApK

DiapDealer · 05-24-2011, 11:53 AM

Quote:

DD can correct me if I'm wrong, but you could still use the device PID if you wanted to CONTINUE buying DRMed mobis or borrowing library mobis.

This is correct.

But I don't think the PID ever worked (right out of the box, anyway) with Fictionwise's DRM scheme... hence why the kindlefix python script originally became necessary to "fix" the DRM, so the protected content could be read on the Kindle.

susan_cassidy · 05-24-2011, 12:29 PM

A long time ago, you could use the Kindle PID with Fictionwise Secure Mobi, but they changed DRM servers long ago, and you can't even enter some of the characters that are required for a Kindle PID any more.

AlexBell · 05-25-2011, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvin

You can get your Kindle PID at this Website:

http://kindletools.prestonlee.com/

I have tried it with the National Library Singapore, (http://singapore.lib.overdrive.com) entered the above generated Kindle PID and the book downloaded was readable on the kindle as protected content!

Thanks, Calvin, but the site says it only works for Kindle2, and I have a Kindle3. I tried anyway, but didn't get a legible response.

Regards, Alex

DiapDealer · 05-25-2011, 07:23 AM

If you have python installed, the latest Tools Archive from Apprentice Alf contains the kindlepid script that will generate a PID from a K3's serial number.

I'd post a link to where someone could download the latest kindlepid script, but I'd probably get spanked--even though the script has perfectly legal uses that have nothing to do with DRM removal.

But the PID is still not going to help you with reading the DRM'ed Fictionwise version of LOTR on your Kindle.

05-23-2011, 04:54 AM	#1
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	New Kindle and PID I've just bought a new Kindle. When I bought DRM'd ebooks to read on my Bookeen Cybook I had to enter a PID to get past the DRM. Do Kindle's have PIDs? How do I read a DRM'd ebook on a Kindle? I have an account with Amazon. Regards, Alex

05-25-2011, 07:23 AM	#15
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	If you have python installed, the latest Tools Archive from Apprentice Alf contains the kindlepid script that will generate a PID from a K3's serial number. I'd post a link to where someone could download the latest kindlepid script, but I'd probably get spanked--even though the script has perfectly legal uses that have nothing to do with DRM removal. But the PID is still not going to help you with reading the DRM'ed Fictionwise version of LOTR on your Kindle. Last edited by DiapDealer; 05-25-2011 at 07:27 AM.

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Solicitous Wizard Posts: 1,434 Karma: 1525776 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TAS, Australia Device: Astak Pocket Pro (Black), 2 x Kindle WiFi (Graphite), iPod Touch 4G	I think you'll have to register your Kindle to your account. I see in another thread you don't have wifi, so you will need to log into your Amazon account from your PC, goto "Manage your Kindle" and hit Register. You'll need the serial code of your Kindle. From there you should be able to buy Amazon ebooks, download them from your account and copy to your Kindle via USB. Unfortunately I can't help about the Kindle PID.

05-23-2011, 07:23 AM	#3
Mike L Wizard Posts: 1,479 Karma: 3846231 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Device: Kindle 3, Samsung Galaxy	Solicitous is completely correct. You just have to register your Kindle to your Amazon account. To do that, you need to know your Kindle's serial number (not the same as its PID). The serial number is printed on the back of the device.

05-23-2011, 11:51 AM	#4
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,316 Karma: 67862884 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	Alex, if you mean reading DRMed Kindle books from Amazon, then the posts above are correct, certainly, but I'd think that would be pretty obvious (and the Kindle itself pretty much walks you through that depending on the condition it was in when you got it). Were you perhaps asking about reading DRMed mobis from sources OTHER than Amazon? ApK

05-23-2011, 12:00 PM	#5
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	The device PID for Kindles that have software versions greater than or equal to 2.5 would only be needed in some very, very specific circumstances. As others have said, it's not necessary at all for Amazon purchases... and you probably still don't have to worry about it even if you start "branching out" and using other ebook sellers.

05-24-2011, 09:23 AM	#9
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,316 Karma: 67862884 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	DD can correct me if I'm wrong, but you could still use the device PID if you wanted to CONTINUE buying DRMed mobis or borrowing library mobis. You would add the PID to your account on the book site, and also configure the appropriate deDRMing tool with the same PID. I guess ANY PID would work in that scenario, even a made up one or the one from your previous device, but using your real one lends credibility....

05-24-2011, 11:34 AM	#10
calvin DRM remover Posts: 84 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North of Germany Device: Kindle 3, 4 & Touch, iPhone/iPad, Hanvon N516 (OpenInkpot)	You can get your Kindle PID at this Website: http://kindletools.prestonlee.com/ I have tried it with the National Library Singapore, (http://singapore.lib.overdrive.com) entered the above generated Kindle PID and the book downloaded was readable on the kindle as protected content!

05-24-2011, 12:29 PM	#13
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	A long time ago, you could use the Kindle PID with Fictionwise Secure Mobi, but they changed DRM servers long ago, and you can't even enter some of the characters that are required for a Kindle PID any more.