How Do I Create A HTML jetBook Page Break?

galavanter · 10-23-2009, 07:25 PM

I purchased a favorite ebook yesterday that surprisingly, is not available on Amazon. I usually purchase my books there with the Kindle App and eventually get them from there to my jetBook in epub format using calibre.

I've spent an embarrassing number of hours trying to do this myself but can't. The html file created by ereader2html reads quite nicely on the jetBook (I upgraded to the latest firmware yesterday also).

The exception is a few places I would like a page break, all before the book actually begins. Here is the most important example:

I suppose I should mention Indian Jenny, but you’ll meet her along the way. Listen to her. She knows the gospel truth. 
 
You’ll see. 
 Along the western slopes of the Oregon Coastal Range*.*.*. come look: the hysterical crashing of tributaries as they merge into the Wakonda Auga River*.*.*. 

"You'll see." is actually the last two lines in the introduction. "Along" is the first word in the famous first sentence of the book.

If I had not read the book before, I would not even realize the intro had ended and the authors words had begun.

Would someone be kind enough to tell me exactly what to put exactly where? Will I replace anything at all? Please be specific, and I will let you know if the jetBook handles it as I hope it will.

No googling allowed, but I hope a few of you have read this great American novel. Thanks.

Jack Tingle · 10-23-2009, 10:20 PM

I don't believe you can on the jetBook. With normal html, you'll need to use CSS, and I don't think the jetBook honors that. You could set it off with multiple 's and force some white space. You could also form a cut line from underscore characters. Both of those are fairly bulletproof.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

galavanter · 10-23-2009, 11:11 PM

You'll see. 
 
 
 
 

Is that what you meant? I made as many as 27 of them ( 's) and got no additional space between "You"ll see." and "Along"

I then made underscores across the page, and did indeed get a line between "You'll see." and "Along", unfortunately in the middle of a page.

I do appreciate the suggestions. Have I implemented them as you would have?

AnemicOak · 10-23-2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galavanter

You'll see.

Try...

You'll see.

galavanter · 10-23-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Try...

You'll see.

Thanks but not working on the jetBook either. Both and   are of course working in the live preview of the free trial of the Taco HTML Edit program I am using.

AnemicOak · 10-23-2009, 11:49 PM

Why not just open the HTML with Sigil and create an ePub?

galavanter · 10-23-2009, 11:58 PM

I just may do that.

I have never used it however. How will I create a page break with it?

AnemicOak · 10-24-2009, 12:00 AM

It has a little icon in the menu to "create chapter break".

galavanter · 10-24-2009, 12:02 AM

Sounds like my kind of program.

Thanks Brian and Jack for your help.

Jim

AnemicOak · 10-24-2009, 12:05 AM

It's quite a nice program. Still early on so it's missing things like find/replace, but I hear that's coming in the next release.

galavanter · 10-24-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

It's quite a nice program. Still early on so it's missing things like find/replace, but I hear that's coming in the next release.

It sure is! That was too easy. Thanks for turning me on to it.

galavanter · 10-24-2009, 03:42 AM

Forgive me today has been a blur to this beginner converter.

Now I remember why I was sticking to html, and why I am back to it. When I converted to epub in calibre, which I don't know how to fully use (only thing I changed was select output to jetBook), I had a couple of issues:

The first was insignificant, @ symbol comes out as an "S" with a squiggly thing on top of it. But then there were also quite a few places where a comma or period didn't follow the word, but started on the next line.

But worst of all, the author of my book uses well—em dashes a lot (try making that character on your keyboard). They are completely ignored in calibre's default epub conversion, and the words on either side of the em dash appear as one, sometimes several instances per page.

Also, I didn't know how to get a page-paragraph break either.

Sigil makes the paragraph break easy, but I noticed I apparently lost some 's between a couple short verses before the Introduction. They were all spaced one after the other after the epub conversion. Sigil also suffered from the missing em dash problem, which makes the book unreadable for me.

My apologies to the creators of both pieces of software. I'm sure an experienced user wouldn't have these issues, or would know how to correct them.

So I'm back to html for now. After all, I knew all Along where the book begins...

Jack Tingle · 10-24-2009, 10:06 AM

I doubt changing formats will yield much on the jetBook. Its renderer for all formats except PDF is rather minimalist. It's one step up from raw text, but only one. Since that doesn't bother me, I like the jetBook, but it is a flaw.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

AnemicOak · 10-24-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galavanter

Forgive me today has been a blur to this beginner converter.

Now I remember why I was sticking to html, and why I am back to it. When I converted to epub in calibre, which I don't know how to fully use (only thing I changed was select output to jetBook), I had a couple of issues:

The first was insignificant, @ symbol comes out as an "S" with a squiggly thing on top of it. But then there were also quite a few places where a comma or period didn't follow the word, but started on the next line.

But worst of all, the author of my book uses well—em dashes a lot (try making that character on your keyboard). They are completely ignored in calibre's default epub conversion, and the words on either side of the em dash appear as one, sometimes several instances per page.

Also, I didn't know how to get a page-paragraph break either.

Sigil makes the paragraph break easy, but I noticed I apparently lost some 's between a couple short verses before the Introduction. They were all spaced one after the other after the epub conversion. Sigil also suffered from the missing em dash problem, which makes the book unreadable for me.

My apologies to the creators of both pieces of software. I'm sure an experienced user wouldn't have these issues, or would know how to correct them.

So I'm back to html for now. After all, I knew all Along where the book begins...

Sounds more like a problem with the HTML output by ereader2html. There are some threads around here about character problems and how to fix them IIRC.

macminer · 10-24-2009, 06:40 PM

It seems Jetbook inbuilt HTML viewer actually cares about logical structure of HTML document, so if you use logical tags like H1, H2, H3, H4 for headings, you'll probably see a page break before them.

10-23-2009, 07:25 PM	#1
galavanter Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 958 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: jetBook, iPod Touch, Kindle 3	How Do I Create A HTML jetBook Page Break? I purchased a favorite ebook yesterday that surprisingly, is not available on Amazon. I usually purchase my books there with the Kindle App and eventually get them from there to my jetBook in epub format using calibre. I've spent an embarrassing number of hours trying to do this myself but can't. The html file created by ereader2html reads quite nicely on the jetBook (I upgraded to the latest firmware yesterday also). The exception is a few places I would like a page break, all before the book actually begins. Here is the most important example: I suppose I should mention Indian Jenny, but you’ll meet her along the way. Listen to her. She knows the gospel truth.<br> <br> You’ll see.<br> <br><br><i>Along the western slopes of the Oregon Coastal Range... come look: the hysterical crashing of tributaries as they merge into the Wakonda Auga River...<br> "You'll see." is actually the last two lines in the introduction. "Along" is the first word in the famous first sentence of the book. If I had not read the book before, I would not even realize the intro had ended and the authors words had begun. Would someone be kind enough to tell me exactly what to put exactly where? Will I replace anything at all? Please be specific, and I will let you know if the jetBook handles it as I hope it will. No googling allowed, but I hope a few of you have read this great American novel. Thanks. Last edited by galavanter; 10-23-2009 at 07:34 PM.

10-23-2009, 10:20 PM	#2
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	I don't believe you can on the jetBook. With normal html, you'll need to use CSS, and I don't think the jetBook honors that. You could set it off with multiple <br>'s and force some white space. You could also form a cut line from underscore characters. Both of those are fairly bulletproof. Regards, Jack Tingle

10-23-2009, 11:11 PM	#3
galavanter Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 958 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: jetBook, iPod Touch, Kindle 3	You'll see.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Is that what you meant? I made as many as 27 of them (<br>'s) and got no additional space between "You"ll see." and "Along" I then made underscores across the page, and did indeed get a line between "You'll see." and "Along", unfortunately in the middle of a page. I do appreciate the suggestions. Have I implemented them as you would have?

10-24-2009, 03:42 AM	#12
galavanter Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 958 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: jetBook, iPod Touch, Kindle 3	Forgive me today has been a blur to this beginner converter. Now I remember why I was sticking to html, and why I am back to it. When I converted to epub in calibre, which I don't know how to fully use (only thing I changed was select output to jetBook), I had a couple of issues: The first was insignificant, @ symbol comes out as an "S" with a squiggly thing on top of it. But then there were also quite a few places where a comma or period didn't follow the word, but started on the next line. But worst of all, the author of my book uses well—em dashes a lot (try making that character on your keyboard). They are completely ignored in calibre's default epub conversion, and the words on either side of the em dash appear as one, sometimes several instances per page. Also, I didn't know how to get a page-paragraph break either. Sigil makes the paragraph break easy, but I noticed I apparently lost some <br>'s between a couple short verses before the Introduction. They were all spaced one after the other after the epub conversion. Sigil also suffered from the missing em dash problem, which makes the book unreadable for me. My apologies to the creators of both pieces of software. I'm sure an experienced user wouldn't have these issues, or would know how to correct them. So I'm back to html for now. After all, I knew all Along where the book begins...

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10-23-2009, 11:49 PM	#6
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Why not just open the HTML with Sigil and create an ePub?

10-23-2009, 11:58 PM	#7
galavanter Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 958 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: jetBook, iPod Touch, Kindle 3	I just may do that. I have never used it however. How will I create a page break with it?

10-24-2009, 12:00 AM	#8
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	It has a little icon in the menu to "create chapter break".

10-24-2009, 12:02 AM	#9
galavanter Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 958 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: jetBook, iPod Touch, Kindle 3	Sounds like my kind of program. Thanks Brian and Jack for your help. Jim

10-24-2009, 12:05 AM	#10
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	It's quite a nice program. Still early on so it's missing things like find/replace, but I hear that's coming in the next release.

10-24-2009, 10:06 AM	#13
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	I doubt changing formats will yield much on the jetBook. Its renderer for all formats except PDF is rather minimalist. It's one step up from raw text, but only one. Since that doesn't bother me, I like the jetBook, but it is a flaw. Regards, Jack Tingle

10-24-2009, 06:40 PM	#15
macminer Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 660420 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Poland Device: Boox Nova 3, Lenovo Tab 4 8" (formerly many others)	It seems Jetbook inbuilt HTML viewer actually cares about logical structure of HTML document, so if you use logical tags like H1, H2, H3, H4 for headings, you'll probably see a page break before them.