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08-12-2011, 02:39 PM | #61 |
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I am a lawyer and I use an ipad, but not a laptop, all the time. There are law firms, major ones in fact, that distribute ipads rather than laptops to all their personnel. Many people, like me, use ipads as laptop substitutes, and claims that ipads cannot be used professionally, but are simply media devices, are simply wrong.
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08-12-2011, 03:15 PM | #62 | |
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Tablets are useful for limited annotations, chat & email communications, and basic record-keeping. They're not useful for business management or document creation/production. Are there law firms that distribute iPads instead of laptops to the secretaries/exec assistants? |
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08-12-2011, 06:43 PM | #63 | |
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Again, there are many different ways people use laptops. Flatly claiming that an iPad, or Playbook, or Netbook, or even a smartphone can't replace a laptop, without knowing HOW people use them, is just silly. Just curious, CommonReader, fjtorres, and Elfwreck-have you all made serious attempts to replace your laptops with an iPad? I've owned an iPad and iPad 2 since both were launched, and no longer travel with a laptop. I access my desktop at work with an iPad 2, but before the iPad, I did the same with a laptop. But I will be the first to admit that I probably underutilized the features of my business laptop over the years Last edited by kjk; 08-12-2011 at 06:45 PM. |
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In addition to FineReader for OCR, I regularly use Acrobat Pro, Word & Excel 2003 (could switch for Open Office or similar, and possibly something as simple as AbiWord, if that's available), Photoshop, and PixEdit. I often have four or more of those open at the same time. I have no use for a computer that can't support all of those or close equivalents. I don't doubt the iPad has some good business uses. A lot of good business uses--in the same way that an email program alone has a lot of good business uses. Tablets don't, at this time, support advanced document creation & management, and don't support business accounts management (Peoplesoft & similar programs); they allow media consumption & easy communication, not production work. Are there authors writing novels on their iPads? Lawyers drafting trial briefs on them? Accountants tracking sales records & issuing invoices? Video technicians editing animation, clipping in stills, and managing sound to create a marketable track? Can you use an iPad to convert from mobi to epub-with-dropcaps? From what I've heard, I'm not even sure you can copy text out of a PDF and paste it into an email. |
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08-12-2011, 07:19 PM | #66 |
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Well just for starters, there's a little known artist called David Hockney creating original artwork on an iPad...
I no longer carry my Fujitsu-Siemens notebook as I find an Android tablet easier and lighter... it gets used for notes, article writing, email, editing and other uses as well as being handy for comics and other relaxation... and I use it more than I did my notebook... Last edited by elcreative; 08-12-2011 at 07:22 PM. |
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Had I $500 lying around for a video-game-and-email device, I'd have one. But iPad doesn't support the majority of what I use a computer for--document scanning, OCR, conversion & editing. It's too bulky to be comfortable ebook reader for me, and the battery doesn't last long enough.
I know that the iPad has plenty of business-usable apps, and those are enough for a lot of people. Doesn't work for me (Acrobat Pro, FineReader, & a word processor are my baseline minimum), and doesn't work for other people who rely on a standard computer's flexibility. |
08-12-2011, 08:57 PM | #68 |
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Every new computing device goes through three stages of acceptance by the experts:
*" This is just an expensive toy" *"This has some uses, but Serious People will use (device I like) for real work. " *"This device is essential to have. I have always said so." Let's review: " The personal computer is just an expensive toy. Serious people , who do serious work, will use a mainframe". "The Mac is just an expensive toy. Serious people , who do serious work, will use a PC with a command line interface". "The smartphone is just an expensive toy. Serious people, who do serious work, will use a Windows PC and a cell phone" "The Iphone is just an expensive toy. Serious people, who do serious work, will use a Blackberry" The experts keep making the same mistake. Just because THEY can't imagine business cases for the Ipad doesn't mean others can't. In the meantime, lawyers, doctors, salesmen, musicians, artists, and many other creators and businesspeople carry on using their Ipads. Last edited by stonetools; 08-12-2011 at 09:01 PM. |
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Only if Apple moves to Redmond :P
I've said this for years: Apple gets special treatment. Microsoft OTOH get "un-special" treatment :P Apple is CLEARLY ANTI COMPETITIVE NOW, and has been for sometime. Yet we never heard any complaints. None that reaches the DOJ anyway :P Quote:
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People are still going on about Apple's anti-competitiveness, probably because they didn't click through and actually read the linked article, so let me put out another excerpt:
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08-13-2011, 04:14 PM | #72 | |
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Not sure how it is ok for X device to be distributed with Linux installed, and I be unable to install it on any other devices, but not ok for an app to be downloadable to only 5 iOS devices, but then I think the developers were just making a point really, weren't they? |
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Apple was in violation of copyright by offering to sell those apps in the first place. |
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08-13-2011, 09:27 PM | #74 | |
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Re: use of tablets - I think that the whole content creation/content consumption meme should be dropped; it's really not that helpful. I do several different things at work, many of which can be better done with an iPad than with a laptop. And some of which cannot be done with an iPad. One part of what I do is write complex documents that may eventually be made available to the public. This I can't do on an iPad - my part is written in WordPerfect (because we have a lot of complex legacy macros) and requires access to some internal databases. When I complete my initial draft it is logged and version checked and transmitted to a proofreader and then an editor. It then comes back to me and is then usually sent (in PDF) to our in-house printers. All of these steps are documented and time stamped internally. So I do this on my desktop. I could do it on a laptop instead...but only at my desk, as I would need to be connected to the ethernet cable that is at my desk. Another important part of what I do is discuss these documents in meetings. For this, the iPad is perfect, as I can pass it around to show a copy of any particular document from the past 10 years or so, and I can also pull up relevant rulings and cases if necessary. Of course everyone at the meeting has paper copies of the documents on the agenda, so I don't need the iPad for them (and paper is better in this context anyway)..but it's not uncommon for someone to ask about a similar document from, say, 3 years ago, and it's nice to be able to pull it up, look it over, and talk about any relevant differences. A laptop would work for this, but it would be much less convenient - typically I'll only need to look something up every second meeting or so, so I can just keep the ipad flat on the table and closed - but if I need to look something up, it's nice that it is instant-on, and that I can pass it around. Another important thing I do is answer e-mails; sometimes by writing a short response, sometimes by writing a 3 page response, and sometimes by making a phone call. While I'll usually write the longer responses at my desk, the short ones are easy enough to do on my iPad (or phone, for that matter). In addition to the instant on, it also helps that it is so light and small - I tend to just stick carry it in an expandable file rather than carry a laptop, case, and power supply along. I think that there are a *lot* of jobs similar to this, where the iPad would be as good as or superior to a laptop, since many people do not do work requiring a laptop's full power. |
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08-14-2011, 09:16 AM | #75 | |
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Some colleagues use iPads for reading papers and documents and for receiving mails. However, the very moment productive work has to be done they are reaching for their laptops. I require a full Java runtime library for some of the business applications I have to use and the iPad doesn't offer that. For private use it would be nice to take something like the iPad along on vacations for web surfing and for reviewing and backing up films and photos. Without expandable storage space it isn't fit for that purpose, though. During the recent short vacation my Sony DSLR produced over 60 GB of data. No problem to back that up with a cheap € 250 netbook but too much data even for the top of the line iPad. |
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