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Old 01-18-2011, 10:07 PM   #16
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My concern is that manufacturers, rather than continuing to lower the price of their basic model, will discontinue that model; and instead offer more fancy models at the same price level.
This. It happens in every segment of consumer electronics. Full-sized laptops bottomed out in price ($300-400) and never got below that line.


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I see that level to be $85 in the next year, two max.
I'm thinking that it will be more like $99.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:33 AM   #17
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Yes, that saddens me the most. Recently, nobody is able to follow the price policy of Amazon devices, their market share is unbeatable and it seem that nobody cares, especially Sony
They make premium readers.
It is far superior to any other eInk eBook readers that are available today.
I agree to pay the price as long as they maintain the same quality.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:39 AM   #18
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But not $90 worth.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:51 AM   #19
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But not $90 worth.
It is for me.

I have had an opportunity to play with Kindle 3, which is in my opinion much better than K2 or K1. Let's say it was...unpleasant. It felt as if I were holding a big & ugly calculator from 1980s I had in a Soviet school. Very much un-enjoyable experience. That particular experience proved to me that I pay thr right price for something I truly enjoy.
When I read a book everything around me is a part of the reading experience. For example I hated paperback editions. To see the text properly I had to break the spine. No other way to have the page flat in a 600+ pages paperback. However, breaking book's spine is an atrocity because I was brought up with a sense that you look well after your books, they are no toys but a valuable possession. That's why I was buying hardback editions.
Sony Reader's superb hardware provides me with what I need. A pleasure when I hold it in my hands. I do not notice I hold a gadget. It is a very important feature for me for which I am prepared to pay premium price.

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Old 01-19-2011, 05:24 AM   #20
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It is for me.

I have had an opportunity to play with Kindle 3, which is in my opinion much better than K2 or K1. Let's say it was...unpleasant. It felt as if I were holding a big & ugly calculator from 1980s I had in a Soviet school. Very much un-enjoyable experience. That particular experience proved to me that I pay thr right price for something I truly enjoy.
I considered 5 ereaders before deciding on the K3. I ruled out the the nook and Sony 350 because they weren't available in black. I ruled out the Sony 650 because it was too expensive. I ruled out the Kobo because its build quality didn't warrant its price tag. That left the K3 by default. So I got it.
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I considered 5 ereaders before deciding on the K3. I ruled out the the nook and Sony 350 because they weren't available in black. I ruled out the Sony 650 because it was too expensive. I ruled out the Kobo because its build quality didn't warrant its price tag. That left the K3 by default. So I got it.
I am glad there are many ebook reader out there. Different people have different needs. I only worry that Amazon's perfect business model (no sarcasm, my honest opinion) might push out others and someone like me will loose what is important to us.
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But not $90 worth.
No, considered that they are the only devices in the world that can be operated with fingers and stylus and have a non-glare screen they are worth a LOT more than mere $90. You must be kidding!

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It is for me.

I have had an opportunity to play with Kindle 3, which is in my opinion much better than K2 or K1. Let's say it was...unpleasant. It felt as if I were holding a big & ugly calculator from 1980s I had in a Soviet school. Very much un-enjoyable experience. That particular experience proved to me that I pay thr right price for something I truly enjoy.
When I read a book everything around me is a part of the reading experience. For example I hated paperback editions. To see the text properly I had to break the spine. No other way to have the page flat in a 600+ pages paperback. However, breaking book's spine is an atrocity because I was brought up with a sense that you look well after your books, they are no toys but a valuable possession. That's why I was buying hardback editions.
Sony Reader's superb hardware provides me with what I need. A pleasure when I hold it in my hands. I do not notice I hold a gadget. It is a very important feature for me for which I am prepared to pay premium price.
Same here! Same here! I have a collection of the most wonderful hardbacks money can buy (almost all are smythe-sewn, some are even gilded) and it is a Sony that gives me a similar satisfactory reading experience.

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I considered 5 ereaders before deciding on the K3. I ruled out the the nook and Sony 350 because they weren't available in black. I ruled out the Sony 650 because it was too expensive. I ruled out the Kobo because its build quality didn't warrant its price tag. That left the K3 by default. So I got it.

It is not too expensive! It was just to expensive for you or you were to frugal to pay for it, but the device itself is properly priced for its abilities and compared to the abilities of the other devices you mentioned and their pricetags!!
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I am glad there are many ebook reader out there. Different people have different needs. I only worry that Amazon's perfect business model (no sarcasm, my honest opinion) might push out others and someone like me will loose what is important to us.
That's something I don't have to worry about. The only books I read on the K3 are public domain and the occasional free book. I don't buy books. Since my reading requirements could've been met by any of the readers in question, format and store content were irrelevant.
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No, considered that they are the only devices in the world that can be operated with fingers and stylus and have a non-glare screen they are worth a LOT more than mere $90. You must be kidding!
No, you must be kidding!

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It is not too expensive! It was just to expensive for you or you were to frugal to pay for it, but the device itself is properly priced for its abilities and compared to the abilities of the other devices you mentioned and their pricetags!!
I want a reader to read books. With that in mind, the 650 doesn't do anything the K3 can't do. Why would I want to waste an additional $90 for no gain?
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I want a reader to read books. With that in mind, the 650 doesn't do anything the K3 can't do. Why would I want to waste an additional $90 for no gain?
And thats the point. There are two different method to compare prices. The first one is: How much is it worth to me? The second: How much is it worth comparing what it can do, what its competitors are able to do and how much does it cost compared to its competitors.

When you say you just wanted to read and this was worth in your eyes, lets say $150, you are evaluating it just by its lowest function: Enabling you to read ebooks.

When you say it is worth no more than 100$ you are not seeing it in the light of how it is enabling you to read, i.e. like you are reading a paperbook and turning the pages with a fingerswipe of the asset that only a Sony has: its glarefree touchscreen, finger and stylus operated. When considering this you will have to admit that all the other touchscreen devices cost around $200 - $220 but either glare or are only working with a stylus and so on. So, when you put these things into your consideration it is worth A LOT MORE than $90.
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And thats the point. There are two different method to compare prices. The first one is: How much is it worth to me? The second: How much is it worth comparing what it can do, what its competitors are able to do and how much does it cost compared to its competitors.

When you say you just wanted to read and this was worth in your eyes, lets say $150, you are evaluating it just by its lowest function: Enabling you to read ebooks.

When you say it is worth no more than 100$ you are not seeing it in the light of how it is enabling you to read, i.e. like you are reading a paperbook and turning the pages with a fingerswipe of the asset that only a Sony has: its glarefree touchscreen, finger and stylus operated. When considering this you will have to admit that all the other touchscreen devices cost around $200 - $220 but either glare or are only working with a stylus and so on. So, when you put these things into your consideration it is worth A LOT MORE than $90.
I don't need touch screen, so I won't pay extra for it.
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I want a reader to read books. With that in mind, the 650 doesn't do anything the K3 can't do. Why would I want to waste an additional $90 for no gain?
Actually, that's about what it was worth to me to know that neither Amazon nor anyone else was able to look over my shoulder while I read. I have enough trouble keeping my PC secure, damned if I going to start the fight on my reader too. Of the non-big-brother manufacturers the Sony 650 seemed like my best bet here in Australia. I won't ridicule other's decisions to buy a Kindle, I just have different priorities and the Sony fit better.
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I don't need touch screen, so I won't pay extra for it.
See, now you got it! It is not worth to you! That is a big difference to saying: it is not worth it!

Thank you for seeing and honoring the point I was stressing at last.
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See, now you got it! It is not worth to you! That is a big difference to saying: it is not worth it!

Thank you for seeing and honoring the point I was stressing at last.
Not quite. If I wanted touch screen, it would still be too expensive. $230 is too much. The price would need to drop about $50.
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