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Old 09-12-2014, 11:05 AM   #31
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I think there are two standards, at least in English (in German it has always been option 2) only, I think):
1)
"Some speech...
"Some more speech by same person...
"Last bit of speech by same person."
2)
"Some speech...
Some more speech by same person...
Last bit of speech by same person."
My impression is that 1) has become rarer.
I've only ever seen 1) in books from "respectable publishers"
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:07 PM   #32
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Gotta agree.
Number one is the right way (in English, at least). Number two is simply an example of someone not knowing (or caring) what the right way IS.

The correct way certainly doesn't seem to be getting any more "rare" in my reading experience.
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:26 PM   #33
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Let's just say that it differs per language and time frame what the correct punctuation is. Styles have the tendency to change every now and then.
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:35 PM   #34
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I have an 18th century document that placed a " mark are the beginning of every line being quoted even within a paragraph.
Yes, I've seen that too. It could be kind of simulated with a left block indent and border, except when the quotation starts or ends in mid-paragraph.
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:54 AM   #35
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Quoting poetry does seem to be the exception, in that you put open and close quote marks at the start and end of each verse of the poem.
One wonders why that is handled so inconsistently in English.

The German method of opening and closing direct speech spanning more than one paragraph only once makes sense and seems logical.
Re-opening the same direct speech at the start of a new paragraph just makes it look like the closing quotation mark is missing at the end of the preceding paragraph - even though this is "correct" in English.

I'd guess this comes down to what you are used to.
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:10 AM   #36
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English is a mishmash of Romance and Germanic Languages. It veers one way then the other.
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:25 AM   #37
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One wonders why that is handled so inconsistently in English.
Everything is inconsistent in English . It's one of the joys of the language.
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Old 09-15-2014, 01:32 PM   #38
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Everything is inconsistent in English . It's one of the joys of the language.
- no taxpayer funded language police peering down from ivory towered academy's telling us what we can and can't write or what names we can give our children.

Only in the English speaking world could there be a PM President named Goodluck Jonathan (Nigeria)

I often see quoted poetry where every line is centred, which is very rarely how the poet set down the original, same with libretto and song lyrics. Philistines

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English is a mishmash of Romance and Germanic Languages. It veers one way then [swerves] the other.
- Also the impact of the Great Vowel Shift, in southern England in particular.

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English is a mishmash of Romance and Germanic Languages. It veers one way then the other.
Are you saying English is a drunken language?

Sir! Please touch your nose wit you left hand (the one without the pen. Now writ 10 words (spelling optional)
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