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Old 05-12-2009, 06:27 AM   #46
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GREAT JOB! Want a cookie?

-David
No, thanks. I'll just drink your milkshake.

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I thought of the idea a week or so ago, bought the domain, built the site, twittered like crazy, made a lot of sales
I found your twitters. You had 10 followers. Not exactly a huge crowd and all you did was repeat the same spam 109 times in one day, the first day. One of your followers was another spammer. One is to porn. Four of them have now-suspended accounts for suspicious activity. I'm guessing those were all you.

It's seems rather odd that you went from gloating about how much business you were making off this scam and then, within 90 minutes, you shut it down. You seem to be incapable of telling the truth about anything.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:52 AM   #47
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Cool avaloncourt
Wow,

You just never quit trying to insult me, and you keep making unfounded judgements of my intentions and character.

My information is public, anyone who wants to know can find out whose behind Promo Publishers and are free to call me with their questions.

Now let's see how you fare, how forthcoming are you?

Do you choose to hide behind the curtain of a msg board ID, or do you have the strength to make public the real name and contact info behind the board ID "avaloncourt".

What's that you say?

You have some wordy excuse as to why you won't tell everyone here who you really are?

Is there a reason you have the courage to bash me publically here where no one knows your identity, but still you refuse to call me personally to speak directly with me about your concerns?

Because of this, most people I know would consider you the fake.

My number hasn't and won't change, so I'm still waiting on your call.

-David
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:56 AM   #48
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Go slither back to your rock and think up your next scam. Apparently it will involve a huge amount of spamming. That appears to be the only thing you can actually do right.

Buh, bye.
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:10 AM   #49
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Just as I thought...
It is true.

Avaloncourt is scared to tell the world his/her identity.

Better yet, avaloncourt still hasn't called me despite multiple invitations.

Are we now a society of accusers who are allowed to accuse, and never have to face those we accuse?

Sounds familiar; anyone remember the SS in Berlin?

Avaloncourt, there is no honor in soapboxing about people you have never taken the time to understand.

Regardless, I'm over it and I feel the entire process was a great learning experience.

Best of luck to all.

-David
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:40 AM   #50
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Strange ...
The link deleted address now leads to the Amazon site.
I wonder, who deleted the link in my post and why?
The link took you to the Amazon site, page about Kindle.
By the way, there is still un-edited link in the first post.
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:57 AM   #51
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I wonder, who deleted the link in my post and why?
The link took you to the Amazon site, page about Kindle.
By the way, there is still un-edited link in the first post.
I did (as I also did in the other linking posts before) because there is no guarantee that it will point to something else again in the future.

The first post isn't linking.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:19 AM   #52
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I did (as I also did in the other linking posts before) because there is no guarantee that it will point to something else again in the future.

The first post isn't linking.
Thank you for a prompt answer.
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Karma from me too, Avaloncourt.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:36 AM   #54
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I think we should change this thread title to "How not to start a business."
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:37 AM   #55
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Someone here needs to grab Avaloncourt and hold on to him.........

He's a keeper.
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Old 05-12-2009, 10:03 AM   #56
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Wow! I had no idea the drama this would cause when I made my first post. You guys are awesome for doing all this research.

At first I was worried that someone might think I worked for this website and was trying to spam the boards. I'm glad that wasn't the case. I fiugred it was too good to be true, but there was a glimmer of hope that this might have been an undiscovered gold mine.

I hope he's being honest when he said he's refunded everyone's money. I imagine there were some people fell for it ("Half price Kindle DX? Durrrr... OK!" *gets credit card*).

I'd like to think people are smarter in this day and age, but I still get calls from my parents asking why Bank of America wants to verify their identity for the 25th time. LOL.
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:19 AM   #57
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My information is public, anyone who wants to know can find out whose behind Promo Publishers and are free to call me with their questions.
How about answering questions in public, in text form?
Like, how many authors do you have, and how much of the price of the Kindle are they willing to support? What kind of contract do you have with them--what happens if they change their mind about paying to distribute their works?

How many units are they willing to pay for?

Where's the profit for you--are those authors not only paying for half a Kindle, but a 10% promo fee to you?

How will you deal with returns for faulty devices, or complaints about badly-formatted ebooks?

What format will the ebooks be in? Will they be DRMd, or transferable to other devices?

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Do you choose to hide behind the curtain of a msg board ID, or do you have the strength to make public the real name and contact info behind the board ID "avaloncourt".
Welcome to America. Lemme 'splain some basic business rules:

When you go into business, the customer has the right to know certain things about you. These include the owner's legal name, the business address, the business license # for whatever location it's licensed in, contact info, and sometimes other details like what kind of insurance is applicable.

The business does not have the right to know equivalent information about its customers. If you have a store, I get to walk in & buy things with cash, without ever telling you my name or address. If I'm online, and I send you PayPal money, you get my name, but still not my address, my credit card number, or my bank of choice.

You're the one making the offer--Kindles at half the price the creators sell them at. You're the one who has to convince people that there's some reason they should buy from you instead of Amazon. $250 discount sounds incredible... but then, I can always find some guy on a street corner willing to sell me a flat-screen TV for $300, as long as I don't ask him where he got it, or how he's licensed to do business from the back of a van.

For all we know, you've got a friend at the Amazon shipping docks, who's going to slip you a couple of boxes of Kindles when they come in.

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Is there a reason you have the courage to bash me publically here where no one knows your identity, but still you refuse to call me personally to speak directly with me about your concerns?
Why call, when the results of that conversation might not be sharable with the public? Why don't you just answer things here?--or at your site's FAQ page, so all your potential customers can be assured that your insanely good price is the result of a legitimate business plan, rather than an attempt to scam someone?

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Because of this, most people I know would consider you the fake.
Avaloncourt hasn't claimed to be anything but "guy on a message board who wonders how this business could be legit." You're the one making claims.
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This thread made my day.

Kinda reminds me of the email chains of the "Nigerian" Lottery winners.
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:43 AM   #59
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This thread made my day.

Kinda reminds me of the email chains of the "Nigerian" Lottery winners.
Ah yes - reminds me, I am a Nigerian prince who is having to leave the country quickly due to a power struggle. I have inherited my father's millions and have bought 40,000 Kindle DX's with the money. I am prepared to let you have 20,000 of these for 10c each if you will only send me $500,000 for shipping costs.

Please, this is a true story - send the cheque to me made out to Canadian/American Shippage Handling (or CASH for brevity) and I will let you have the Kindle's as soon as I am in America.
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I don't even remember visiting Nigeria, let alone purchasing a lottery ticket there.
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