Kindle won't bookmark

Strether · 03-09-2008, 11:21 PM

I downloaded one of Baen's books and ran it through Book Designer. Not a big deal, I've done it with 8-10 other books.

But this particular book, when the Kindle goes to sleep, it doesn't save your place; when you return, it's at the cover page. If, in lieu of letting it go to sleep, you try to put a bookmark in it, you get a notice on the screen that the Kindle is out of memory and you should go to the Content Manager and delete something so that you have room.

Can't reproduce this effect with other books on the Kindle, and almost all of my not-that-extensive library is on a 2-Gig memory card, so it's not out of memory.

I tried resetting it, and also deleted the book and imported it again, and got the same problem.

Any thoughts on this? Igorsk?

Jim

Nate the great · 03-09-2008, 11:27 PM

Did you delete the MBP file associated with that ebook? That's where the bookmark is stored. I don't know for sure that when the kindle deletes a book it gets that file as well.

cfw123 · 03-10-2008, 09:41 AM

I think the MBP file is NOT deleted -- they expect that you will later want to import that book again from Kindle's backup library, and will still need those files.

Also, do you regularly go to the content manger and move your books to it from the Kindle memory? Everything initially goes only into the Kindle memory -- and it is up to you to move it to the memory card.

I have over 450 books on my Kindle, have imported books from many sources including my own on-line library on my computer's hard drive, and have never seen that problem.

Charles Wilkes, San Jose, Calif.

Strether · 03-10-2008, 12:20 PM

Hooked the Kindle up via the USB connection and looked at the folders and the MBP file is deleted when you delete the book from the memory card.

I routinely transfer my books from the Kindle's memory to the memory card, though when I transfer books to the Kindle I put them directly on the memory card. It's only downloaded books that go to the Kindle first.

So, I put this book back in BD, stripped it of the cover art that was there, deleted the toc and the page breaks, put the page breaks back by hand, created a new toc, made a new book. And...the same thing happens. Get the exact same message.

A complete mystery, because there's nothing unusal about this book that I can see.

Wonder what mechanism causes the Kindle to save your place; to in effect, create its own bookmark when the Kindle goes to sleep. Something is conflicting with that and the owner-created bookmark function. It would be interesting to know just what.

I hope this is a localized effect, and that it won't suddenly start occuring with my other books.

Jim

tompe · 03-10-2008, 03:01 PM

What is the name of the file? Did the original file work or was it not in mobiPocket format? If you make the file available other can check if the Cybook have the same problem.

Strether · 03-10-2008, 03:45 PM

Well, it turns out that when you transfer the file to the Kindle memory card, it doesn't create an MPB file. My guess is that's the cause of the problem, but as to why it doesn't create the file, I've no clue.

I've tried it a couple of times, and have had no luck.

I did download the novel from Baen in Mobipocket format and it behaves normally, so guess I'll go with that.

Jim

tompe · 03-10-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strether

Well, it turns out that when you transfer the file to the Kindle memory card, it doesn't create an MPB file. My guess is that's the cause of the problem, but as to why it doesn't create the file, I've no clue.

Strange characters in the file name maybe? Another posibility is that you have saved a file A.prc and a file A.mobi and that confuses things since both want to use A.mpb. It is the reader program that should create the mpb file if it does not exist.

badgoodDeb · 03-10-2008, 07:40 PM

I was unable to bookmark, with a similar error message "memory full". I had editted some things out of My Clippings and it didn't like what I left behind. I deleted the My Clippings file (using the Kindle itself to delete it) and all was fine.

However - since yours doesn't save the current-page either, this might not help you. The Clippings file is only affected by bookmarking (and highlighting and making notes), I think.

But, in the My Clippings file, it does have to store the title line, when you bookmark. So yeah -- if there is a strange character in the book's title, that might cause all sorts of problems.

Strether · 03-10-2008, 08:25 PM

The book title had an ampersand in it, but I changed that in BD and made a new file and it still won't create a MPB file. I tried importing it to both the memory card and to the Kindle itself and it doesn't make any difference.

Wonder if Amazon would talk to me about it if I called? It hasn't happened with anything else I've formatted using BD, and it might not happen again, but it would be good to know what causes the problem.

Jim

DaleDe · 03-10-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strether

The book title had an ampersand in it, but I changed that in BD and made a new file and it still won't create a MPB file. I tried importing it to both the memory card and to the Kindle itself and it doesn't make any difference.

Wonder if Amazon would talk to me about it if I called? It hasn't happened with anything else I've formatted using BD, and it might not happen again, but it would be good to know what causes the problem.

Jim

Try doing it on your PC using the PC version of MobiReader. It will also create the MPB file. If it works you could move it over and if it fails you will have more information. It has to be some error that is causing it not to create the MPB file. The lack of this file is causing the problem that you see with no bookmarks.

Dale

Strether · 03-10-2008, 09:35 PM

Well, it transferred over, OK, but didn't create a MPB file.

Thanks, for the thought, though. I didn't know I could transfer from the Mobireader to the Kindle.

Interesting, but I don't know when I'd use that feature, normally.

Jim

Nate the great · 03-10-2008, 09:44 PM

What version of Mobipocket Desktop are you using? Version 6.0 will move stuff and put it in the "documents" folder, 6.1 and 6.2 will not.

I don't use it, but MobiDesktop is a pretty good piece of software. It will sync your ebooks between your Kindle, PC, and whatever other Mobipocket device you have. Plus, it also has a huge offering of RSS feeds that can be generated into ebooks and moved automatically to your Kindle.

TallMomof2 · 03-11-2008, 08:39 AM

In the later versions, MobiPocket desktop creates an "ebooks" folder since it sees the Kindle as an USB drive. It is trivial to move the contents of the "ebooks" folder to the "documents" folder on the Kindle.

wilsoncpu · 03-06-2009, 05:12 PM

Others have mentioned this, but it bears repeating. If the title has odd characters in it, try renaming the file. I got "Whose Body?" by Dorothy Sayers, and the file was named "Sayers - Whose Body?.mobi". I deleted the troublesome copy on the Kindle using Content Manager; plugged the Kindle into my computer via the USB; renamed the file on the computer; copied the new version to the Kindle's SD card, and YAY, it all worked. YMMV, of course, but it's a chance.

appel846 · 03-16-2009, 01:25 PM

I have a bit of a different, yet related problem. My Kindle 2 will not keep it's pace when powered off AND on the page I'm currently reading. If I go to the home page while reading and power it completely off, it will go to my current page once I click on my book. I called support and they said that this is how the Kindle 2 is supposed to behave, although I have a friend with a K2 as well and hers will retain the latest page and upon power on, it will go to that page. Support also said that a K1 will do this, but a K2 is not supposed to. I wonder if they repackaged K1s and made them K2s...

I also tried to "synch to furthest page read"...and it will always to go page 1, regardless of what page I'm on. Anyone think like me, that this K2 has an issue?

03-09-2008, 11:21 PM	#1
Strether Guru Posts: 746 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	Kindle won't bookmark I downloaded one of Baen's books and ran it through Book Designer. Not a big deal, I've done it with 8-10 other books. But this particular book, when the Kindle goes to sleep, it doesn't save your place; when you return, it's at the cover page. If, in lieu of letting it go to sleep, you try to put a bookmark in it, you get a notice on the screen that the Kindle is out of memory and you should go to the Content Manager and delete something so that you have room. Can't reproduce this effect with other books on the Kindle, and almost all of my not-that-extensive library is on a 2-Gig memory card, so it's not out of memory. I tried resetting it, and also deleted the book and imported it again, and got the same problem. Any thoughts on this? Igorsk? Jim

03-06-2009, 05:12 PM	#14
wilsoncpu Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 1	Maybe it's the title Others have mentioned this, but it bears repeating. If the title has odd characters in it, try renaming the file. I got "Whose Body?" by Dorothy Sayers, and the file was named "Sayers - Whose Body?.mobi". I deleted the troublesome copy on the Kindle using Content Manager; plugged the Kindle into my computer via the USB; renamed the file on the computer; copied the new version to the Kindle's SD card, and YAY, it all worked. YMMV, of course, but it's a chance.

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03-09-2008, 11:27 PM	#2
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Did you delete the MBP file associated with that ebook? That's where the bookmark is stored. I don't know for sure that when the kindle deletes a book it gets that file as well.

03-10-2008, 09:41 AM	#3
cfw123 Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, Calif., USA Device: Kindle	I think the MBP file is NOT deleted -- they expect that you will later want to import that book again from Kindle's backup library, and will still need those files. Also, do you regularly go to the content manger and move your books to it from the Kindle memory? Everything initially goes only into the Kindle memory -- and it is up to you to move it to the memory card. I have over 450 books on my Kindle, have imported books from many sources including my own on-line library on my computer's hard drive, and have never seen that problem. Charles Wilkes, San Jose, Calif.

03-10-2008, 12:20 PM	#4
Strether Guru Posts: 746 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	Hooked the Kindle up via the USB connection and looked at the folders and the MBP file is deleted when you delete the book from the memory card. I routinely transfer my books from the Kindle's memory to the memory card, though when I transfer books to the Kindle I put them directly on the memory card. It's only downloaded books that go to the Kindle first. So, I put this book back in BD, stripped it of the cover art that was there, deleted the toc and the page breaks, put the page breaks back by hand, created a new toc, made a new book. And...the same thing happens. Get the exact same message. A complete mystery, because there's nothing unusal about this book that I can see. Wonder what mechanism causes the Kindle to save your place; to in effect, create its own bookmark when the Kindle goes to sleep. Something is conflicting with that and the owner-created bookmark function. It would be interesting to know just what. I hope this is a localized effect, and that it won't suddenly start occuring with my other books. Jim

03-10-2008, 03:01 PM	#5
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	What is the name of the file? Did the original file work or was it not in mobiPocket format? If you make the file available other can check if the Cybook have the same problem.

03-10-2008, 03:45 PM	#6
Strether Guru Posts: 746 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	Well, it turns out that when you transfer the file to the Kindle memory card, it doesn't create an MPB file. My guess is that's the cause of the problem, but as to why it doesn't create the file, I've no clue. I've tried it a couple of times, and have had no luck. I did download the novel from Baen in Mobipocket format and it behaves normally, so guess I'll go with that. Jim

03-10-2008, 07:40 PM	#8
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,501 Karma: 64095689 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	I was unable to bookmark, with a similar error message "memory full". I had editted some things out of My Clippings and it didn't like what I left behind. I deleted the My Clippings file (using the Kindle itself to delete it) and all was fine. However - since yours doesn't save the current-page either, this might not help you. The Clippings file is only affected by bookmarking (and highlighting and making notes), I think. But, in the My Clippings file, it does have to store the title line, when you bookmark. So yeah -- if there is a strange character in the book's title, that might cause all sorts of problems.

03-10-2008, 08:25 PM	#9
Strether Guru Posts: 746 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	The book title had an ampersand in it, but I changed that in BD and made a new file and it still won't create a MPB file. I tried importing it to both the memory card and to the Kindle itself and it doesn't make any difference. Wonder if Amazon would talk to me about it if I called? It hasn't happened with anything else I've formatted using BD, and it might not happen again, but it would be good to know what causes the problem. Jim

03-10-2008, 09:35 PM	#11
Strether Guru Posts: 746 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	Well, it transferred over, OK, but didn't create a MPB file. Thanks, for the thought, though. I didn't know I could transfer from the Mobireader to the Kindle. Interesting, but I don't know when I'd use that feature, normally. Jim

03-10-2008, 09:44 PM	#12
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	What version of Mobipocket Desktop are you using? Version 6.0 will move stuff and put it in the "documents" folder, 6.1 and 6.2 will not. I don't use it, but MobiDesktop is a pretty good piece of software. It will sync your ebooks between your Kindle, PC, and whatever other Mobipocket device you have. Plus, it also has a huge offering of RSS feeds that can be generated into ebooks and moved automatically to your Kindle.

03-11-2008, 08:39 AM	#13
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	In the later versions, MobiPocket desktop creates an "ebooks" folder since it sees the Kindle as an USB drive. It is trivial to move the contents of the "ebooks" folder to the "documents" folder on the Kindle.

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03-16-2009, 01:25 PM	#15
appel846 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 2	I have a bit of a different, yet related problem. My Kindle 2 will not keep it's pace when powered off AND on the page I'm currently reading. If I go to the home page while reading and power it completely off, it will go to my current page once I click on my book. I called support and they said that this is how the Kindle 2 is supposed to behave, although I have a friend with a K2 as well and hers will retain the latest page and upon power on, it will go to that page. Support also said that a K1 will do this, but a K2 is not supposed to. I wonder if they repackaged K1s and made them K2s... I also tried to "synch to furthest page read"...and it will always to go page 1, regardless of what page I'm on. Anyone think like me, that this K2 has an issue?