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Old 07-02-2010, 07:05 AM   #1
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WARNING about new firmware version 1.4

Although this firmware upgrade fixes the font size issue, it introduces a whole new "feature", that the Kobo will switch itself completely off after a short period of inactivity (30 minutes). Thus whenever you go back to it you will have to power on, which takes a good while.

The upgrade doesn't warn you that this is going to happen. It would have been nice to have been told, as I honestly preferred my Kobo before.

At least you know now... so you can choose whether to upgrade...

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Old 07-02-2010, 01:16 PM   #2
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It's because we wouldn't stop whining about battery life...
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:36 PM   #3
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Please define, "short period." A minute? Two? Five?
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:39 PM   #4
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Kobo told us they would add a "Sleep Mode." If you have left your device inactive for more than 5 minutes, it will go to sleep. "This is helpful in managing battery life, and it’s also a behavior that people have come to expect." - from the kobo blog.
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:39 PM   #5
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:41 PM   #6
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If you just leave your Kobo "ON" like before it remains on. EDIT: Sorry this is wrong it will go to sleep.

If you tap the power button it will got to "SLEEP" which locks the buttons but provides instant on.

The unit will stay in "SLEEP" mode for a maximum of 15 min before shutting down completely.

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Old 07-02-2010, 01:42 PM   #7
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I think there was a misunderstanding between the developers and the sales within kobo !!!

If I put the kobo in sleep mode knowing it will shutdown in 15 minutes, why I'd put it in sleep mode?
to sleep, means "SLEEP", none sleeps for just 15 minutes, what one expects is: go to sleep, and I'll wake you up tomorrow;
but for kobo: go to sleep, and it will "die" after a while, and can't be "waken up" tomorrow!

Stupid developer!

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Old 07-02-2010, 02:23 PM   #8
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I think there was a misunderstanding between the developers and the sales within kobo !!!

If I put the kobo in sleep mode knowing it will shutdown in 15 minutes, why I'd put it in sleep mode?
to sleep, means "SLEEP", none sleeps for just 15 minutes, what one expects is: go to sleep, and I'll wake you up tomorrow;
but for kobo: go to sleep, and it will "die" after a while, and can't be "waken up" tomorrow!

Stupid developer!

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it's incomprehensible why they did those things....
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:39 PM   #9
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it's incomprehensible why they did those things....
Hmmm....really? Strong sentiments. I disagree.

My PVR that is attached to my flat panel, will go into sleep mode after a number of hours of inactivity. A message flashes that it will go into sleep mode and turn the TV off unless I press a button.

Really just leave your Kobo on and don't put it into sleep mode. It really doesn't take all that long to boot up. Type "A"s are great in rush hour too..chill out guys!
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:52 PM   #10
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My mobile phone only takes 30 sec to boot too, and I'd be annoyed if I had to switch it on every time I wanted to make a call because it had switched off after 15 min of standby.
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My mobile phone only takes 30 sec to boot too, and I'd be annoyed if I had to switch it on every time I wanted to make a call because it had switched off after 15 min of standby.
hmmm...Your phone must be tuned by wireless company!
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:10 PM   #12
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I think the "sleep" mode to shut down solution was a patch for the known issues with battery life. It certainly doesn't seem ideal, but it provides a solution before they fix the real problem. It it sort of like "hiding" the 100 free books while they figure how they can actually allow you to remove them.

Like I said previously, I am very impressed with the update, as it does fix all of the problems I had previously. However, I am extremely disappointed in the sleep mode solution for battery conservation. I know I wasn't getting anywhere near 8,000 page turns but that didn't bother me at all. I am used to charging my Blackberry daily even if I don't use it much on any particular day. Quite frankly, charging my Kobo once a week or so, under normal use, is still great in my mind regardless of how many page turns each charge yields.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:16 PM   #13
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I tend to agree with fred_yu_job. What purpose does the 'Sleep' mode really serve if the Kobo will turn off in 15 minutes.

If I know I'm coming back to the Kobo within 15 minutes I'd just leave it on. If I'm not back in 15 minutes go to sleep Kobo - that would make sense. The 'Sleep' mode seems completely pointless to me. Turning off should be a user option not a default, preferably with a user set time-out.

I miss the cover picture - it was what made the Kobo a Kobo - please bring it back.
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Old 07-03-2010, 01:41 AM   #14
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I think the "sleep" mode to shut down solution was a patch for the known issues with battery life.
But it obviously wasn't, because some users were reporting no problems with battery life. I've only ever had one instance of running out of battery and I leave it on, by the bed, day after day (and read for a considerable time each night).

Some users have reported serious battery problems, such as not even being able to get through one book without a recharge, but this is obviously not a problem that applies to all Kobos, just some of them.
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:53 AM   #15
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I think the "sleep" mode to shut down solution was a patch for the known issues with battery life.
I agree. But I think it's a very poor "solution".

This is my take on it:

Kobo realised that a large number of units were experiencing very fast battery drain if they were left on. They couldn't pinpoint why this was happening, so to "fix" the problem they decided to automatically power down the Reader after 15 minutes inactivity.

I can't think of any other reason they would have taken such a heavy handed approach to conserving battery life.

Personally I'm Ok with that. I always power my Kobo Reader off when I'm not using it anyway. But I think it is disappointing that Kobo don't seem to have actually fixed the poor battery life issues at all. They just implemented a shonky workaround.

Now, I could be completely wrong. Perhaps Kobo have made other changes in the firmware update that improve battery consumption, but the only new battery saving feature I've seen advertised by Kobo is the auto-shutdown "feature".
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