3rd party software from iLiad to DR1000?

Gogolo · 09-29-2008, 07:09 AM

Hi

Still I am deciding if I shall buy the DR1000 or not (or lets say, I try to be more patient

)

One question is: Will it be easy to port the existing iLiads 3rd party Software to the new DR1000? Or will it need completely new approach?

I like the 3rd party software very much (Abiword, emel, Wiki etc.) and ask myself if it will take a long time to port them for DR1000...

Maybe someone who is porting can say more.
Thanks very much!

Gogolo

P.S.: Tribble, do you hear us calling from the deepness of the Internet?

wallcraft · 09-29-2008, 09:22 AM

From the FAQ:

Quote:

Q: Will all users have the ability to run 3rd party software out of the box or is there a need to install a developer package like with the iLiad?
A: Custom application can be build using the SDK, the executable can be stored on the SD-card and started using a link in the Home location. The SDK will be available in the first week of October.

The FAQ is generally informative, but this is a non-answer. If ALL 3rd-party software has to go through the SDK, then it depends on what the SDK allows.

We will know more when the SDK, and the source code for the Open Source software that is on the DR1000, is released.

timezone · 09-29-2008, 11:18 AM

If you believe iRex then it should be very difficult. They are saying the two systems are so different that the earlier decision to upgrade older Liad readers will not happen. They maybe using more low level calls than third party applications but this might be an indication of what to expect. If it is easy to port old applications then one might wonder why they are abandoning the iLiad platform. Maybe some application developers can pipe in to agree or dispute my assumption. Or as wallcraft suggested it might be too early to tell.

Adam B. · 09-29-2008, 12:24 PM

I suspect the screen refresh procedures have changed. I'll take a look at the SDK when it's released to see how much work it will be to port iLiad apps to the DR.

It also has a different processor, so code will likely need to be recompiled.

nekokami · 09-29-2008, 02:35 PM

And a newer version of Linux.

Shaggy · 09-29-2008, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timezone

If you believe iRex then it should be very difficult. They are saying the two systems are so different that the earlier decision to upgrade older Liad readers will not happen.

Porting from iLiad -> DR (what this post is asking) is probably easier than the other way around (what iRex was talking about).

yokos · 09-29-2008, 05:36 PM

Please don't buy DR1000, if you wanna use 3rd party software with GUI. You will need at least a DR1000S [wacom, stylus].

The interface got a shift from a icon toolbar/stylus based [iLiad] to menu-based [DR] environment.
Do you know how to enable functions like zooming in the iLiad pdf viewer w/o a stylus? There is none! [EDIT: Ok, it is in unofficial ipdf only]
On the DR you press the menu button and select the fuction with arrow keys/stylus [S/SW only].

How do you port an app which has an exclusive mouse input to DR which has no mouse input [DR1000 only]?
It is much easier to ignore all DR1000 users instead of bothering with a solution. ;-(

It is not clear whether we get any USB-keyboard attached. Imho the mini-usb won't work. It's not a master. This "ipod like connector" is obscure. Bluetooth should work maybe.

As Adam said "refresh procedures" will differ.
Management of buttons input: is there still a "contentlister" which collects all input as a "black box" and tunnels it to the running app?

09-29-2008, 07:09 AM	#1
Gogolo Addict Posts: 353 Karma: 92 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: DR1000S, Nook ST (rooted), Kobo Aura one (ksm)	3rd party software from iLiad to DR1000? Hi Still I am deciding if I shall buy the DR1000 or not (or lets say, I try to be more patient ) One question is: Will it be easy to port the existing iLiads 3rd party Software to the new DR1000? Or will it need completely new approach? I like the 3rd party software very much (Abiword, emel, Wiki etc.) and ask myself if it will take a long time to port them for DR1000... Maybe someone who is porting can say more. Thanks very much! Gogolo P.S.: Tribble, do you hear us calling from the deepness of the Internet?

09-29-2008, 05:36 PM	#7
yokos Pac-Man caught my iLiad. Posts: 807 Karma: 3595 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany; next to Baltic Sea Device: Boox Max Lumi, iRex iLiad (RIP)	Please don't buy DR1000, if you wanna use 3rd party software with GUI. You will need at least a DR1000S [wacom, stylus]. The interface got a shift from a icon toolbar/stylus based [iLiad] to menu-based [DR] environment. Do you know how to enable functions like zooming in the iLiad pdf viewer w/o a stylus? There is none! [EDIT: Ok, it is in unofficial ipdf only] On the DR you press the menu button and select the fuction with arrow keys/stylus [S/SW only]. How do you port an app which has an exclusive mouse input to DR which has no mouse input [DR1000 only]? It is much easier to ignore all DR1000 users instead of bothering with a solution. ;-( It is not clear whether we get any USB-keyboard attached. Imho the mini-usb won't work. It's not a master. This "ipod like connector" is obscure. Bluetooth should work maybe. As Adam said "refresh procedures" will differ. Management of buttons input: is there still a "contentlister" which collects all input as a "black box" and tunnels it to the running app? Last edited by yokos; 09-29-2008 at 05:41 PM.

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timezone Addict Posts: 244 Karma: 1232 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Device: Windows Phone7, Kindle Fire	If you believe iRex then it should be very difficult. They are saying the two systems are so different that the earlier decision to upgrade older Liad readers will not happen. They maybe using more low level calls than third party applications but this might be an indication of what to expect. If it is easy to port old applications then one might wonder why they are abandoning the iLiad platform. Maybe some application developers can pipe in to agree or dispute my assumption. Or as wallcraft suggested it might be too early to tell.

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