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I have a Sony Reader PRS-650. It handles ePub with and without Adobe's Adept DRM.
Now, if I wanted to get a nook color, I could take all of the ePub I currently have and use them with the nook color without having to do anything to them. No need to convert, no left margin bug, nothing. I can use them as is if I want. If I wanted an iPad, I could use them as is with Bluefire, txtr, or iBooks (since I've stripped the DRM). I could buy a Pocketbook of some kind and my ePub are still good. But really, there are more eBook shops selling ePub then any other eBook format these days. Library eBooks from Overdrive do not work on a Kindle so people who do not DRM strip cannot have library access with a Kindle. So I do see more and more devices sold that give access to library eBooks and that excludes the Kindle. And that means those customers won't be buying eBooks from Amazon. ePub has won. More devices, libraries, & more shops selling. |
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It would be a bit muddier for the Kindle (and maybe other devices that are tied to one ebook shop). It is against the Amazon user agreement to remove DRM from anything you buy from them, and I would guess that they would have some way of checking when you go online with it.
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And all of that put together has half (or less) the volume Amazon has. Every measure I've seen puts the Amazon market share somewhere around 70-75%.
How, exactly has ePub "won" when that's the case? I grant you it's the better format, and it's the only one where I can buy in one shop and read on multiple devices (natively) without circumventing DRM. There are four major formats, btw: Apple ePub, B&N ePub, Adobe ePub, and Amazon. The vast majority do not know how (or want to know how) to circumvent DRM. That said, there's Amazon apps on every multi-function device out there, pretty much. Of course, you can't read your Amazon books on any other dedicated eReader, but someone investing in the Amazon ecosystem is going to buy a Kindle, anyway. |
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While DRM and restriction to specific users or their devices is a publisher requirement, it was always my opinion that the different implementations of DRM were the booksellers trying to restrict buyers of their devices to buying from their stores.
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The author/publisher of the book are not going to go to trial because they have to toss the dice with a jury; with you having paid for the book and only stripped the DRM for personal use - pretty sure 99% of authors/publishers do not want to go up against those kind of odds during a trial. And you are correct, the Entertainment Industry paid a lot of money for those laws (mainly the DMCA) and to take folks to court for only stripping off the DRM would ultimately just result in shortening the life of those laws. At least in the US of A with its saga of Prohibition. The vast majority of juries, judges, congressmen are not going to fill up U.S. prisons with DRM Strippers. It even reads silly as I type it. Not going to happen. |
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Also, how can I tell if an ebook in question is DRM or not? Is there some way to tell before I d/l it? (Since I haven't d/l any books ... don't even have an ereader yet... I'm assuming this is how it works). While I prefer not to have to jump through hoops to get the ebook on my device, I'm enough of a geek that I'm comfortable doing so but don't want to run afoul of the legal issues... whatever they may be. Thus far I've checked into a few titles that my daughter has bought and read (paperbacks) and the ebook price may be $1 less than the paperback. Yikes. That's not exactly encouraging either. Also, some of it is available from the library and some is not. Whereas I typically read a book once and am done with it, she loves to read a favorite book over and over again. (I'm shopping for her for a Christmas gift and am becoming intrigued by the ereaders myself.) I gather I missed all the hoopla earlier in the year when the Agency crap hit the fan resulting in higher ebook pricing. |
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Some say years. Probably if you are not technology-oriented you will want to go with the Amazon camp. If are technology-oriented and I say 'software scripts' to you and that means something then you have a chance to go with buying books and removing the DRM. Is it easy? Some on these boards say 'yes it is' and some say 'no'. The majority are probably in the 'yes' camp. If you are intending to buy books for your daughter then you will probably want to set up a library/directory for her non-DRM books (if you go that route) and have a backup for that location. I am presuming that having non-DRM books laying around in a family situation (his/hers/daughter/son) will ultimately get quite messy over the years. If big companies turn you off, something that happens from time to time on these boards, then you may want to check out http://www.kobobooks.com/ which is a good site to browse to see how the smaller companies are dealing with the DRM mess. Look over at the upper right and you will see Free Apps and eReader which links you can click on and you will see how the smaller companies have to compete with Amazon by providing applications to read on a multitude of devices and then their own, individual, hardware reader. Kobobooks sells books with DRM, just not Amazon's DRM. Will you be able to read Kobo DRM books in 20 years when Kobo no longer exists? I have no idea. Will you be able to read Kobo DRM books in 60 years when Adobe no longer exists? I have no idea. Calibre does not automatically strip off DRM, it has to be set up to do so. So just downloading Calibre will not do it for you. You have to do more research, using Google. Your most sure-fire, easy, way to go, is to buy an ereader for your daughter from Amazon and set up an account for her with Amazon. The next best bet would be to step into the Adobe DRM camp (Adobe Digital Editions). When you purchase a book, using a PC with Digital Editions on it, the book is transferred onto the PC, inside of Digital Editions, and Adobe DE has its own rules for which devices it will do side-loading onto. A device list is found here: http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalpublis...ported-devices Here is the problem: a) are you talking about getting ebooks for your daughter to get her through the next couple of years or b) since daughters tend to grow up are you talking about setting up a digital library she can take with her when she is twenty? b) is a big deal, and will probably stretch your and our patience! |
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