What would make me buy a Kindle?

RalphTrickey · 09-10-2007, 03:20 PM

Total speculation, of course, but fun

Since it is supposed to have EVDO, there are a bunch of things that they could do with it.

1) Deliver newspapers, rss feeds and other content right to your device without playing PC games that are too complicated for most people to mess with.

2) Blackberry Competitor. How would you like to be able to read your email, surf the net, download/play music and books, etc. using a Viziplex E-Ink device and 'real' (although mini) keyboard? You could probably write off the expense of the device too, which helps a little.

3) An IM client. There's nothing to say you couldn't IM friends.

4) a VoIP client.Why not talk to them too.

Things I'd like to see...

Detachable keyboard

to reduce the form factor. I'll probalby mostly be reading, so the keyboard isn't necessary.

Either 'Pay as you go' EVDO charges or subscription fees.

My 2c,
Ralph

NightGeometry · 09-10-2007, 03:56 PM

What would convince me to buy it would be... if it were a damn good ebook reader and if I could get any (or almost any) book from Amazon in a suitable format.

If i could opt for hard- and soft- copy of books for a combined reduced price then hey, I'll take one *now*. (If it had an OSX interface...)

The other things you want - well I like the to be in my pda, not my book reader. In my ebook reader I want humungous battery life, not doodad's.

paulkbiba · 09-10-2007, 05:18 PM

Actually the more features the LESS I'd want to buy it. I want and easy to carry ebook reader that reads as many formats as possible. It should have excellent battery life.

All those other features detract from simplicity and battery life, and probably portability. I want an ebook reader, not a PDA with a large screen.

yvanleterrible · 09-10-2007, 05:37 PM

Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor.
I'd like to write on that thing.

HarryT · 09-11-2007, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalphTrickey

2) Blackberry Competitor. How would you like to be able to read your email, surf the net, download/play music and books, etc. using a Viziplex E-Ink device and 'real' (although mini) keyboard? You could probably write off the expense of the device too, which helps a little.

eInk screen are lousy for general "surfing" because of their slow update speed. Not at all a pleasant experience.

HarryT · 09-11-2007, 03:43 AM

[QUOTE=yvanleterrible;95948]Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor.
/QUOTE]

No it wouldn't. You can do that on the iLiad.

heb · 09-11-2007, 07:16 AM

Just out of interest, if you wanted to make a hybrid display capable of nice text and then faster updates for web browsing etc, could you create a layer of e ink and then overlay that with an LCD? In games and things I have seen it looks like you can overlay and LCD over just about anything and its transparent unless its in use.

HEB

HarryT · 09-11-2007, 07:41 AM

eInk is opaque. Where would you put the backlight?

RalphTrickey · 09-11-2007, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

eInk screen are lousy for general "surfing" because of their slow update speed. Not at all a pleasant experience.

If it's Vizplex, that cuts the refresh down a little, If it's got 8 color grey scale, that helps, and it might be better than my blackberry for the sites I hit.

If it's got EVDO, it might also be usable as a modem you could plug into a laptop. The hardware would support that capability, all you'd need is the software and the subscription.

They also might have kept is simple, and only support RSS and book downloads to keep the subscription costs down. I like that idea too

Ralph

nekokami · 09-11-2007, 08:49 AM

B&W LCD doesn't need a backlight.

The OLPC has a dual-layer screen. Does anyone know what the two layers consist of? (I know it's not e ink, just wondering what it is.)

Adam B. · 09-11-2007, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor.

No it wouldn't. You can do that on the iLiad.

[song]Everything the Kindle can do, the iLiad can do better[/song]

yvanleterrible · 09-11-2007, 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=HarryT;96071]

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor.
/QUOTE]

No it wouldn't. You can do that on the iLiad.

Is there a keyboard on the Iliad?

Adam B. · 09-11-2007, 09:12 AM

The iLiad has a software based keyboard and also does handwriting recognition.

You can also connect an external USB keyboard to it as well.

Alisa · 09-11-2007, 12:21 PM

I'd rather be able to attach a good keyboard when I need it than have a less useful one on there all the time making the thing larger and heavier than it needs to be during those times when I just want to read.

NatCh · 09-11-2007, 12:22 PM

I'm thinking the same thing, Alisa, but I don't make much in the way of notes in my books. If I did, I'd likely see it differently.

09-10-2007, 03:20 PM	#1
RalphTrickey Enthusiast Posts: 44 Karma: 30 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Sony	What would make me buy a Kindle? Total speculation, of course, but fun Since it is supposed to have EVDO, there are a bunch of things that they could do with it. 1) Deliver newspapers, rss feeds and other content right to your device without playing PC games that are too complicated for most people to mess with. 2) Blackberry Competitor. How would you like to be able to read your email, surf the net, download/play music and books, etc. using a Viziplex E-Ink device and 'real' (although mini) keyboard? You could probably write off the expense of the device too, which helps a little. 3) An IM client. There's nothing to say you couldn't IM friends. 4) a VoIP client.Why not talk to them too. Things I'd like to see... Detachable keyboardto reduce the form factor. I'll probalby mostly be reading, so the keyboard isn't necessary. Either 'Pay as you go' EVDO charges or subscription fees. My 2c, Ralph

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09-10-2007, 03:56 PM	#2
NightGeometry Zealot Posts: 139 Karma: 1057240 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brighton, England Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kindle 3G, Kindle DX	What would convince me to buy it would be... if it were a damn good ebook reader and if I could get any (or almost any) book from Amazon in a suitable format. If i could opt for hard- and soft- copy of books for a combined reduced price then hey, I'll take one now. (If it had an OSX interface...) The other things you want - well I like the to be in my pda, not my book reader. In my ebook reader I want humungous battery life, not doodad's.

09-10-2007, 05:18 PM	#3
paulkbiba Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 45 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Device: Nokia e61i, iPhone	Actually the more features the LESS I'd want to buy it. I want and easy to carry ebook reader that reads as many formats as possible. It should have excellent battery life. All those other features detract from simplicity and battery life, and probably portability. I want an ebook reader, not a PDA with a large screen.

09-10-2007, 05:37 PM	#4
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor. I'd like to write on that thing.

09-11-2007, 03:43 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	[QUOTE=yvanleterrible;95948]Keyboard text input. That would make it the first eink word processor. /QUOTE] No it wouldn't. You can do that on the iLiad.

09-11-2007, 07:16 AM	#7
heb Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none yet	Just out of interest, if you wanted to make a hybrid display capable of nice text and then faster updates for web browsing etc, could you create a layer of e ink and then overlay that with an LCD? In games and things I have seen it looks like you can overlay and LCD over just about anything and its transparent unless its in use. HEB

09-11-2007, 07:41 AM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	eInk is opaque. Where would you put the backlight?

09-11-2007, 08:49 AM	#10
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	B&W LCD doesn't need a backlight. The OLPC has a dual-layer screen. Does anyone know what the two layers consist of? (I know it's not e ink, just wondering what it is.)

09-11-2007, 09:12 AM	#13
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	The iLiad has a software based keyboard and also does handwriting recognition. You can also connect an external USB keyboard to it as well.

09-11-2007, 12:21 PM	#14
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I'd rather be able to attach a good keyboard when I need it than have a less useful one on there all the time making the thing larger and heavier than it needs to be during those times when I just want to read.

09-11-2007, 12:22 PM	#15
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I'm thinking the same thing, Alisa, but I don't make much in the way of notes in my books. If I did, I'd likely see it differently.

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