Ppaerwhite unified firmware ?

Anagnostis · 02-15-2014, 01:39 PM

should amazon provide the same firmware for PW1 and PW2 and give both kindles the same features ?

Not long ago Jeff Bezos said that

Quote:

""We want to make money when people use our devices, not when people buy our devices,"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19907546

what is your opinion?

HarryT · 02-15-2014, 02:16 PM

I am afraid that I really see no connection between Mr Bezos' statement and your point about unified firmware. All current Kindles can already use the same content, which is the point he was making.

Anagnostis · 02-15-2014, 05:54 PM

The connection is - in my opinion - that there is nothing stoping them from giving you the same features as in pw2 (goodreads etc. ) providing us the same firmware but instead they "force" us to upgrade if you want to use them .

eschwartz · 02-15-2014, 09:38 PM

I'm sure they will push those same changes to the PW1 (and Touch) the same way they pushes most of the PW1 changes to the Touch -- as soon as they write the update. The PW1 and PW2 are not the same device, even though they share a logo. The hardware is completely different, so it's not just a matter of agreeing to sign the update for the PW1 as well.

Amazon is not conspiring to sell more upgrades from PW1-->PW2, they don't make money off selling the hardware. (it's not just a matter of they don't want to -- they don't, period.)

pidgeon92 · 02-15-2014, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anagnostis

The connection is - in my opinion - that there is nothing stoping them from giving you the same features as in pw2 (goodreads etc. )

Pretty sure that goodreads integration is only available in the US right now, anyhow.

johnnyb · 02-16-2014, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anagnostis

what is your opinion?

Generally, my opinion is that "Hell yeah PW1s should have the most recent software, having been the beta run for the following device and all" (I'm actually just a little annoyed that I got uneven lighting at the bottom, now that I know that it could have been done better for less money), but I think that there is no way to make a case for that out of statements that Bezos made that will coerce Amazon to do so.

But I'm currently holding off from buying Kindle books anyway, so I’m not really using my Kindle. I wrote to second level CS that I would do so until Kindle for Mac supported Personal Documents and copying of text and well, I have to stick to that...

el.jeffe58 · 02-16-2014, 07:26 AM

Hi Anagnostis. My opinion is that you should have it the way you prefer in a perfect world. I am in mental health, so that is coming from the perspective of psychology. It may not be feasible to provide a comfortable experience with or without updates in devices but that is a different question. Thanks for posing a challenging question.

Josieb1 · 02-16-2014, 02:22 PM

Personally the only thing I could do with on the Paperwhite 1 is the vocabulary builder. The rest I don't need and I certainly don't want Cloud Collections, or to lose the ability to use my own font so far now I am more than happy to keep the existing Paperwhite 1 firmware,

krbo · 02-17-2014, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

Pretty sure that goodreads integration is only available in the US right now, anyhow.

no it isn't, my pw2 came from Germany (with 5.4.2) and goodreads is in

NiLuJe · 02-22-2014, 10:09 AM

He meant "when used with a US account", the country it was shipped to/from is irrelevant

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02-15-2014, 02:16 PM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I am afraid that I really see no connection between Mr Bezos' statement and your point about unified firmware. All current Kindles can already use the same content, which is the point he was making.

02-15-2014, 05:54 PM	#3
Anagnostis Member Posts: 19 Karma: 2748 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greece Device: Kindle PW/PW2 - Kobo Aura HD -iPad 3	The connection is - in my opinion - that there is nothing stoping them from giving you the same features as in pw2 (goodreads etc. ) providing us the same firmware but instead they "force" us to upgrade if you want to use them .

02-15-2014, 09:38 PM	#4
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I'm sure they will push those same changes to the PW1 (and Touch) the same way they pushes most of the PW1 changes to the Touch -- as soon as they write the update. The PW1 and PW2 are not the same device, even though they share a logo. The hardware is completely different, so it's not just a matter of agreeing to sign the update for the PW1 as well. Amazon is not conspiring to sell more upgrades from PW1-->PW2, they don't make money off selling the hardware. (it's not just a matter of they don't want to -- they don't, period.)

02-16-2014, 07:26 AM	#7
el.jeffe58 Vocophorian Posts: 61 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicagoland, U.S.A. Device: Fire HDX7, Voyage, PW2, Touch 3G, Fire TV	Hi Anagnostis. My opinion is that you should have it the way you prefer in a perfect world. I am in mental health, so that is coming from the perspective of psychology. It may not be feasible to provide a comfortable experience with or without updates in devices but that is a different question. Thanks for posing a challenging question.

02-16-2014, 02:22 PM	#8
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,009 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	Personally the only thing I could do with on the Paperwhite 1 is the vocabulary builder. The rest I don't need and I certainly don't want Cloud Collections, or to lose the ability to use my own font so far now I am more than happy to keep the existing Paperwhite 1 firmware,

02-22-2014, 10:09 AM	#10
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012492 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	He meant "when used with a US account", the country it was shipped to/from is irrelevant .

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