05-09-2009, 12:10 AM | #16 | |
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i've caught (and usually fixed) plenty of innaccurate info on wikipedia, as i'm sure most people here have. any time i find something that is important to me on wiki, i check on it elsewhere. alas. many people i know take what they read on wikipedia as gospel.
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05-09-2009, 12:18 AM | #17 |
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Anybody else wondering if they're looking at a way to save a pile of money, put a sugar coating on it(look we're understanding technology) Without really understanding what's involved?
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05-09-2009, 01:27 AM | #18 |
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Well, they could just print out the textbooks in addition to distributing them digitally.
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05-09-2009, 05:14 AM | #20 | |
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I also don't see where thibaulthalpern makes the claim that there are reliable sources that should be just believed without using any backup sources either. There's no reference in the post to regurgitating read info too. I'm sure any good teacher teaches critical thinking. To call someone a bad teacher and accuse them of being part of the problem just because they understand the problems of citing from wikipedia (an opinion that is fully justified) is awfully judgmental and could easily be seen as offensive. Last edited by deltop; 05-09-2009 at 05:16 AM. |
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05-09-2009, 07:37 AM | #22 |
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FYI - Some very large Universities do not allow the referencing of Wikipedia in formal documents such as research papers and diploma thesis. I assume they have some rationale.
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In my experience it certainly is less reliable than other sources of information that are accepted in academic circles. Journals, text books and the like. Wikipedia needs to evolve more before it's accepted as a serious source of information. Information on wikipedia just isn't reviewed enough by people who are qualified to do so. Anyone can edit it regardless of whether they know what they are talking about. You can't say the same for academic journals which are peer reviewed or course text books.
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I know that my father in law who teaches high school here in the uk is always complaining about the issue. His students are always trying to use wiki as a reference and therefore the number of inaccuracies that pop up in their essays and course work has increased dramatically. Quote:
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I've a question about "open-source". It's something like Wikipedia or it's about the format : EPUB for example ? An open format solve the problem to know what reader to buy. A free reader is some money no spent.
If its an open format, the "experts" could write the books and the editors win their money. An "open-source" book could be read with many devices. I read some PDF files with XPDF for free. The "ereader" is a way to read, you can use a computer and have two or more pages on the screen or print some pages - all pages aren't always needed when you study for an exam. May be there is some interests : economical for the Gov., pratical for the students and the scholl, and also for the nature - less printed book, less cutted trees ... ? Last edited by Randy11; 05-09-2009 at 08:09 AM. |
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I teach at the college level and professors do not make that much money from books they write. It's not really any source of meaningful income at all! |
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This is one reason why the citing of Wikipedia for academic writing is not supported, except perhaps of an example of something but not as a source of credible information because one cannot trace who wrote what easily and one doesn't know the expertise of who wrote what.
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At this point, if we were to offer digital versions to the EXCLUSION of print, then I'm totally against it. |
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Wikipedia is never a credible source of information for writing academic papers because we don't know the expertise of the persons writing the entry and it is not easily traceable where certain information in Wikipedia comes from. In addition, one generally doesn't cite a general encyclopedia (which Wikipedia is) for academic writing whether it is printed or not. By the way, if I'm part of the problem, what "problem" would this be? |
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Lot of leaps of logic and logic fallicies below which I now see there is no need to engage in. Whew! Some folks! ;-)
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