In iOS 8, iBooks has become a permanent app

Jessica Lares · 06-02-2014, 10:43 PM

Apple has pretty much declared war on every eBook publisher and ebook reader developer.

Sad times.

Bookworm_Girl · 06-03-2014, 12:10 AM

Ugh! It looks like some of the features they've added to it are "organize books by series" and "auto-night mode". Family sharing includes iBooks purchases.

kyteflyer · 06-03-2014, 01:21 AM

I've not gone with the beta program this time. I'll be interested to see how it develops. More interested in Health, TBH, and seeing which gadget/app developers actually use HealthKit for compatibility.

JBaby · 06-03-2014, 03:21 AM

I disagree to a certain extent. Calendar is built in, but people use other calendar apps. The same can be said for browsers, email clients, to-do, and notepad apps. Podcasts used to play in the music app, but that didn't stop me from buying Downcast years ago. Now there will be those people who won't try other ebook apps, however I'd wager those people would stick with iBooks anyway since Apple prompts you to download it.

This really isn't surprising to me. The writing was on the wall when iBooks was baked into Mavericks. I'm more surprised they didn't bake it into iOS 7. I'm sticking with Marvin! I require way more from an eReader app than Apple will give me. I'm still using Downcast for the same reason.

meeera · 06-03-2014, 03:57 AM

Yes, as an iOS user, I'm really not seeing how this affects me adversely in any way. I gather Apple aren't going out of their way to prevent users from installing Kindle/Kobo/Marvin/Goodreader/Cloudreaders/whatever on their devices?

Jessica Lares · 06-03-2014, 08:21 AM

Oh yeah, don't even bother installing the beta. The biggest issue being that iCloud is broken. You can't use it with anything but iOS 8 and OS X 10.10. Absolutely poor judgement on Apple's part on that (the requiring of 10.10).

The other thing is the crashing, which happens a lot on my 1st gen iPad Mini.

But this time around I'm actually going to use it as a developer device. I've already gone through a few pages of the Swift guide.

No way am I installing it on my other devices though.

Shane R · 06-03-2014, 08:37 AM

For simplicity, I've started using the built-in (Apple developed) apps as much as possible.

About the only exceptions are PocketCasts, the Bing search app, and Simplenote.

I will note however that while I do use iBooks, I also have and use the Kindle app, Goodreader, Bluefire and Marvin.

FlorenceArt · 06-03-2014, 09:34 AM

It's annoying that Apple won't let you delete an app you don't use, but that's already the case with others. I can't see this as a catastrophe, just a minor disagreement. But of course I'm still using iBooks myself.

Josieb1 · 06-03-2014, 04:46 PM

I put all the apple apps I don't want in a folder called default and shove it on the last page. Then ignore it, I have about 10 apps in there so far.

Penforhire · 06-03-2014, 05:03 PM

I don't see a problem with this unless they change the terms of other 3rd party reading apps. Apple has a "Newsstand" app yet on my iPad I happily subscribe to magazines through the Zinio app instead.

eschwartz · 06-03-2014, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penforhire

I don't see a problem with this unless they change the terms of other 3rd party reading apps. Apple has a "Newsstand" app yet on my iPad I happily subscribe to magazines through the Zinio app instead.

Except that it is Yet Another Useless App that is being shoved down the throat of every iPhone user, whether they want it or not.

Then again, I guess that is kind of to be expected.

MartyTX · 06-03-2014, 05:39 PM

My NookST has been set aside and I use Marvin/iPadMini for all my EPUB's.

However, Marvin can't handle PDF's, and I have about 20 heavily illustrated reference books in PDF format on my Mini. I read them with iBooks and think it does a pretty good job.

In lieu of iBooks, what PDF reader do you folks recommend?

Thanks ...

AnemicOak · 06-03-2014, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyTX

In lieu of iBooks, what PDF reader do you folks recommend?

Goodreader

Bookworm_Girl · 06-03-2014, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I put all the apple apps I don't want in a folder called default and shove it on the last page. Then ignore it, I have about 10 apps in there so far.

Me too but I wish I could delete them.

AnemicOak · 06-03-2014, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

Me too but I wish I could delete them.

Same here. It's the same with most Android devices. Space/resources taken up by stuff I don't want or need.

06-02-2014, 10:43 PM	#1
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	In iOS 8, iBooks has become a permanent app Apple has pretty much declared war on every eBook publisher and ebook reader developer. Sad times.

06-03-2014, 05:39 PM	#12
MartyTX Dedicated Posts: 441 Karma: 11279376 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Amarillo, TX Device: iPad Mini 1 & 4, Nook ST, Dell 11-3000, iPhone 5s	PDF Reader ?? My NookST has been set aside and I use Marvin/iPadMini for all my EPUB's. However, Marvin can't handle PDF's, and I have about 20 heavily illustrated reference books in PDF format on my Mini. I read them with iBooks and think it does a pretty good job. In lieu of iBooks, what PDF reader do you folks recommend? Thanks ...

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Bookworm_Girl E-reader Enthusiast Posts: 4,871 Karma: 36507503 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southwest, USA Device: Kindle Oasis 3; Kobo Aura One; iPad Mini 5	Ugh! It looks like some of the features they've added to it are "organize books by series" and "auto-night mode". Family sharing includes iBooks purchases.

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kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,841 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone SE2020	I've not gone with the beta program this time. I'll be interested to see how it develops. More interested in Health, TBH, and seeing which gadget/app developers actually use HealthKit for compatibility.

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JBaby Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 3714018 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Parsons, KS Device: 11th Gen Paperwhite SE, 2021 iPad Pro 11” & iPhone 11 Pro	I disagree to a certain extent. Calendar is built in, but people use other calendar apps. The same can be said for browsers, email clients, to-do, and notepad apps. Podcasts used to play in the music app, but that didn't stop me from buying Downcast years ago. Now there will be those people who won't try other ebook apps, however I'd wager those people would stick with iBooks anyway since Apple prompts you to download it. This really isn't surprising to me. The writing was on the wall when iBooks was baked into Mavericks. I'm more surprised they didn't bake it into iOS 7. I'm sticking with Marvin! I require way more from an eReader app than Apple will give me. I'm still using Downcast for the same reason.

06-03-2014, 03:57 AM	#5
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,659 Karma: 66420972 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	Yes, as an iOS user, I'm really not seeing how this affects me adversely in any way. I gather Apple aren't going out of their way to prevent users from installing Kindle/Kobo/Marvin/Goodreader/Cloudreaders/whatever on their devices?

06-03-2014, 08:21 AM	#6
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	Oh yeah, don't even bother installing the beta. The biggest issue being that iCloud is broken. You can't use it with anything but iOS 8 and OS X 10.10. Absolutely poor judgement on Apple's part on that (the requiring of 10.10). The other thing is the crashing, which happens a lot on my 1st gen iPad Mini. But this time around I'm actually going to use it as a developer device. I've already gone through a few pages of the Swift guide. No way am I installing it on my other devices though.

06-03-2014, 08:37 AM	#7
Shane R Fanatic Posts: 518 Karma: 4274548 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: None	For simplicity, I've started using the built-in (Apple developed) apps as much as possible. About the only exceptions are PocketCasts, the Bing search app, and Simplenote. I will note however that while I do use iBooks, I also have and use the Kindle app, Goodreader, Bluefire and Marvin.

06-03-2014, 09:34 AM	#8
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	It's annoying that Apple won't let you delete an app you don't use, but that's already the case with others. I can't see this as a catastrophe, just a minor disagreement. But of course I'm still using iBooks myself.

06-03-2014, 04:46 PM	#9
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,013 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	I put all the apple apps I don't want in a folder called default and shove it on the last page. Then ignore it, I have about 10 apps in there so far.

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Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	I don't see a problem with this unless they change the terms of other 3rd party reading apps. Apple has a "Newsstand" app yet on my iPad I happily subscribe to magazines through the Zinio app instead.

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