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Old 05-18-2012, 10:41 PM   #526
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Just don't take the scaled population gift: I got one for 70K population and it would have taken eleven cycles of surging nothing but energy to catch up - and then I would have been really slammed at my next level.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:24 PM   #527
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I'm at 19. Until this round I had deficits all the way down--I was working on getting rid of bliss but it went overboard, but then I got some crows and they put everything pretty well in line. My stats:

Baen Bucks:52,097,927

Baen Bliss:319,303

Population:300,100

Food:370,870

Energy:5,931,573

Military:94,218

Surge Pts Left this Cycle: 0/95

Total Bucks per Cycle:7,267,103
from Assets:1,565,203
from Pop.:5,701,900

Political Adj to Asset Bucks:+62%

Baen Bliss - Base Need:10,203
Low-Bliss Cost:0

Energy - Base Need:229,673
Low-Energy Bliss Cost:0%

Food - Base Need:70,770
Low Food Bliss Pct Penalty:0%
Famine Population Loss:0
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:53 AM   #528
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Anyone else seen the layout of the freehold page has changed and the ebooks details and the redeem link is hidden under the freehold details?
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:57 AM   #529
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Anyone else seen the layout of the freehold page has changed and the ebooks details and the redeem link is hidden under the freehold details?
Mine's not hidden it just moved form the left to the right side of the screen.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:58 AM   #530
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Weedfreak yes it's part of the last update.
Just like the scalable gifts and the ability to preserve surge points for 1 round.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:01 AM   #531
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Mine's not hidden it just moved form the left to the right side of the screen.
Mmm mine stayed on the left and is now hidden, even if I log out and in..

Ah well of to Baens Bar I suppose.

Solved it, it is a caching issue if anyone else has it, you just need to refresh the page a couple of time or delete your cache.

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Old 05-19-2012, 07:15 AM   #532
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Mmm mine stayed on the left and is now hidden, even if I log out and in..

Ah well of to Baens Bar I suppose.

Solved it, it is a caching issue if anyone else has it, you just need to refresh the page a couple of time or delete your cache.
Thanks for that. I had the same problem, and a refresh has sorted it.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:56 AM   #533
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Just don't take the scaled population gift: I got one for 70K population and it would have taken eleven cycles of surging nothing but energy to catch up - and then I would have been really slammed at my next level.
Actually, I'm at level 19 on a second freehold. It got a pop gift (40K), two food and three bliss. so, I too one each of the first and one bliss, as I'm nearly to level 20. I'll bleed the bliss out as I rebuild energy to compensate for the people.

I can see the people gifts being ok for those who get hit by crows a couple of times in a row (it has happened).

My main freehold is at level 21 - it finally received ONE scaled gift today (I was starting to think it would never get any). Of course, it's Bliss, which I need none of (esp not 80K), as i just upleveled.




Baen Bucks:26,662,786


Baen Bliss:1,010,278


Population:520,091


Food:511,315


Energy:11,005,914


Military:9,799
Surge Pts Left this Cycle: 0/105
Total Bucks per Cycle:12,570,237
from Assets:1,648,326
from Pop.:10,921,911
Political Adj to Asset Bucks:+62%
Baen Bliss - Base Need:480,187
Low-Bliss Cost:0
Energy - Base Need:84,003
Low-Energy Bliss Cost:0%
Food - Base Need:-8,776
Low Food Bliss Pct Penalty:-3%
Famine Population Loss:0
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:58 PM   #534
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By 5pm I should be at positive energy again. Yay? Then I can start looking at how to add population. I've got one or two normal gifts, and right now, a single reactor surge covers 1200 population. (Which, grr, there are no assets that create. But I suspect that in a level or two, a single reactor surge will cover the 1500 pop that is the Arm and Leg Factory default. That'll be nice... surge A&L factory x3, surge 3 reactors; a few points left over for food or military to catch up.)

I got a scaled gift. +40k All. Eep.

That'll require 720,000 energy to cover the new pop (well, 680k, once I allow for the 40k energy in the package); I'm thinking of spending a few cycles (okay, more than a few) building energy surplus to about 350k and then taking the gift, and spending a few more cycles on just energy to catch up.

Or maybe I should push to go up a level first--the energy cost would be higher, but the reactors would surge for more and catch up quicker.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:03 PM   #535
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The scaled gifts are a mixed bag. So far I have received two that I really liked: 100,000 energy and 100,000 food. I'm also redeeming the Baen Bucks gifts (50,000; 60,000 and 100,000). The population and Bliss gifts will be sitting there for a long time though. Hopefully there will be a way to trash them soon since they can't be transferred. I haven't received a military scaled gift yet. That would definitely get used.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:07 PM   #536
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If you want to reduce your Bliss, then my last experiment was a rousing success. By upping my population radically (surged about 30k) the next cycle took me from Bliss base need excess of over 300k to a negative base need of about 180k. In one cycle! Of course I have a lot of Energy and Food to make up now...
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:18 PM   #537
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I got a military scaled gift--70k. It was delightful. Felt very weird using that to cover the 2034 military I was short to cover a whack.

Scaled bliss gifts wouldn't be as useful, even with population surges and going into energy debt; the energy deficit costs a percentage of bliss so you'd be better off having bliss in 10-20k pieces usable each cycle than one big gift.

I did that for a while; got deep into energy debt and asked for bliss gifts; every waking cycle I redeemed the minimum to prevent costs. Then I surged Ansibles before I went to sleep so I wouldn't be losing bucks (at least, not from bliss deficits) overnight. The new 10-per-cycle limits will prevent that strategy, and also makes smaller value gifts fairly useless.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:04 PM   #538
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I just got two population gifts to the tune of 20K and 30K. Last turn I got 20K of bliss. Haven't cashed a one. How many slots did the Hoard have again? It's gonna fill up with these monsters.

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The Hoard has 100 slots, IIRC.
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I got a scaled gift. +40k All. Eep.

That'll require 720,000 energy to cover the new pop (well, 680k, once I allow for the 40k energy in the package); I'm thinking of spending a few cycles (okay, more than a few) building energy surplus to about 350k and then taking the gift, and spending a few more cycles on just energy to catch up.
The +40K all doesn't bump population. I got and used a couple. I did use a 50K population gift, so I'm currently down 1,000k energy (-10% bliss), but I'm hoping to get some +energy gifts to help knock it back. I think I'll be getting about 10 megabucks/cycle by the time I level up to 20.
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