New Apple tablet rumors point to Kindle clones?

yagiz · 03-13-2009, 11:00 AM

New Apple tablet rumors point to Kindle clones?

An interesting news... I wonder what type of battery life this is going to have...

JSWolf · 03-13-2009, 11:13 AM

Given how poor the battery is in the iPhone/iPod Touch when making heavy use of the screen, I'd venture to say not good.

LittleMe · 03-13-2009, 11:42 AM

Here they are thinking it will be a netbook. http://www.9to5mac.com/10-inch-screen-mac-laptop

But either one will be cool.

CTH · 03-13-2009, 12:09 PM

To build a LCD ebook reader would probobly be a misstake but I cant see apple building one without colour. But on the other hand, apple has never used the best technology, they just make it appear so...

Netbook is my guess, but not a cheap one more likes sonys netbook vaio P i thnk it is called. The question is if mac OS works that well on a Atom processor...

Phogg · 03-13-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CTH

To build a LCD ebook reader would probobly be a misstake but I cant see apple building one without colour. But on the other hand, apple has never used the best technology, they just make it appear so...

Netbook is my guess, but not a cheap one more likes sonys netbook vaio P i thnk it is called. The question is if mac OS works that well on a Atom processor...

That one is a yes. The folks at the various UMPC site forums are doing it.

CTH · 03-13-2009, 12:37 PM

Now that you mention it I remember hearing about that too.

The problmen might be to get it to run fast enough, I am sure it will run the OS but a big selling point for a mac is when you buy (a new) one everything just works, all apps and everything that a normal user want to use. IF some apps doesnt work with some new macs that will confuse costumers. And when they upgrade the normal macs a netbook mac might hold them back from adding a more demanding OS to them... I dont think that apple will do more than one version of OSX...

But hey my worries might be wrong and everything works great!

Druidsbane · 03-13-2009, 12:51 PM

Personally I doubt they are coming out with a tablet, would be awesome but unless they can keep the weight down and keep battery life and performance competitive I'd agree with Steve Jobs' statement that they don't know how to build a sub $500 computer that isn't garbage. They might be using these screens are part of an update of their lineup since none of their laptops have touch-screens but an e-reader is almost impossible, netbook/tablet a little less so, and real computer with touch-screen as most likely. Just my $0.02.

ohbalto · 03-13-2009, 01:09 PM

I think the 10" iPhone or iTablet or whatever you want to call it makes perfect sense.

And, I would buy one.

A 10" Mac using a variant of the iPhone OS (iPhone 2.0, for example) would be golden for me. All the tricks the iPhone can do, but in a larger screen? Hells yeah.

And, while I can see it having e-book software (including Amazon's Kindle app), it doesn't make sense -- to me -- for Apple to release an e-book reader. Sell books on the iTunes store? Sure. Read books through iTunes? Sure. A dedicated device? I really don't see it happening.

Now, if Apple partnered with Amazon to enable you to buy Kindle books via iTunes . . .

Druidsbane · 03-13-2009, 01:19 PM

http://www.pcworld.com/article/16118...ally_mean.html

Like ohbalto says, a 10" mac with the iPhone OS (3.0 most likely) would have enormous potential. It is already a stripped down version of OSX and the API is actually not that bad to program for, I could definitely see it being very functional to use. My only concern is power and weight to be honest. Would I use it as an ebook reader? Certainly part of the time I might, but I'd still prefer a simple e-ink display for that. No real details on the screen have been released as far as I know. We know the size but we don't know the type, it might be a reflective TFT for example. Only time will tell

Phogg · 03-13-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohbalto

I think the 10" iPhone or iTablet or whatever you want to call it makes perfect sense.

And, I would buy one.

A 10" Mac using a variant of the iPhone OS (iPhone 2.0, for example) would be golden for me. All the tricks the iPhone can do, but in a larger screen? Hells yeah.

And, while I can see it having e-book software (including Amazon's Kindle app), it doesn't make sense -- to me -- for Apple to release an e-book reader. Sell books on the iTunes store? Sure. Read books through iTunes? Sure. A dedicated device? I really don't see it happening.

Now, if Apple partnered with Amazon to enable you to buy Kindle books via iTunes . . .

Why would Apple consider, even for a moment, allowing Amazon to have a piece of their pie?

When Apple started itunes there were bigger music download sites than the original itunes out there. But apple brought the hoard of applephiles to the table, and solid aggressive corporate funding, They expanded their catalog to be as large as any out there, but it didn't happen over night. And today it is huge.

Amazon is not in a positions that Apple can't challenge and supersede. Indeed Apple has a history of doing just that.

Sonist · 03-13-2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTH

... The question is if mac OS works that well on a Atom processor...

Or, it may not even be Atom.

Apple acquired PA Semi last year, and there was quite a bit of speculation as to why. See this: http://beyond3d.com/content/news/634

On the other hand, while I personally would love a 10" tablet-style device that works well, I wouldn't buy it as a reader.

The main reason I purchased an e-reader, is the non-backlit, paper-like screen. And I don't think I am alone on this.

CTH · 03-13-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonist

Or, it may not even be Atom.

Apple acquired PA Semi last year, and there was quite a bit of speculation as to why. See this: http://beyond3d.com/content/news/634

Interesting, but then they wouldnt be making a x86 device (if they would, we would probobly heard that they have bought a license from intel), could work for a tablet but I stand by my statement that I dont belive that they would make a special OSX version for a netbook that just should be a small mac. For a tablet that would be a large ipod touch, well that is much more possible.

Drewmangroup · 03-13-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

The question is if mac OS works that well on a Atom processor...

Its runs extremely well on a Dell Mini 9.

dmaul1114 · 03-13-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohbalto

I think the 10" iPhone or iTablet or whatever you want to call it makes perfect sense.

Battery life is the current obstacle to such devices. It's not great on the small screen of the current iPhone if you're using the screen a lot.

But once battery tech improves, such a device will be great. Especially if its matched by improvements in screen tech so we can have a color eInk screen that can look as good as LCD or some new tech that is as easy on the eyes for reading but also looks great for video, web surfing etc.

CTH · 03-13-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

Battery life is the current obstacle to such devices. It's not great on the small screen of the current iPhone if you're using the screen a lot.

I agree but if you have a larger screen you will have a larger device and if you have a larger device you have room for a larger battery. It might not scale so well and the cost for the unit might go up to much but there is a possibility that the battery life is so big obstacle.

03-13-2009, 11:00 AM	#1
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CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	To build a LCD ebook reader would probobly be a misstake but I cant see apple building one without colour. But on the other hand, apple has never used the best technology, they just make it appear so... Netbook is my guess, but not a cheap one more likes sonys netbook vaio P i thnk it is called. The question is if mac OS works that well on a Atom processor...

03-13-2009, 12:37 PM	#6
CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	Now that you mention it I remember hearing about that too. The problmen might be to get it to run fast enough, I am sure it will run the OS but a big selling point for a mac is when you buy (a new) one everything just works, all apps and everything that a normal user want to use. IF some apps doesnt work with some new macs that will confuse costumers. And when they upgrade the normal macs a netbook mac might hold them back from adding a more demanding OS to them... I dont think that apple will do more than one version of OSX... But hey my worries might be wrong and everything works great!

03-13-2009, 12:51 PM	#7
Druidsbane Member Posts: 24 Karma: 13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Device: txtr	Personally I doubt they are coming out with a tablet, would be awesome but unless they can keep the weight down and keep battery life and performance competitive I'd agree with Steve Jobs' statement that they don't know how to build a sub $500 computer that isn't garbage. They might be using these screens are part of an update of their lineup since none of their laptops have touch-screens but an e-reader is almost impossible, netbook/tablet a little less so, and real computer with touch-screen as most likely. Just my $0.02.

03-13-2009, 01:09 PM	#8
ohbalto Raaaargh! Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle	I think the 10" iPhone or iTablet or whatever you want to call it makes perfect sense. And, I would buy one. A 10" Mac using a variant of the iPhone OS (iPhone 2.0, for example) would be golden for me. All the tricks the iPhone can do, but in a larger screen? Hells yeah. And, while I can see it having e-book software (including Amazon's Kindle app), it doesn't make sense -- to me -- for Apple to release an e-book reader. Sell books on the iTunes store? Sure. Read books through iTunes? Sure. A dedicated device? I really don't see it happening. Now, if Apple partnered with Amazon to enable you to buy Kindle books via iTunes . . .

03-13-2009, 01:19 PM	#9
Druidsbane Member Posts: 24 Karma: 13 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Device: txtr	http://www.pcworld.com/article/16118...ally_mean.html Like ohbalto says, a 10" mac with the iPhone OS (3.0 most likely) would have enormous potential. It is already a stripped down version of OSX and the API is actually not that bad to program for, I could definitely see it being very functional to use. My only concern is power and weight to be honest. Would I use it as an ebook reader? Certainly part of the time I might, but I'd still prefer a simple e-ink display for that. No real details on the screen have been released as far as I know. We know the size but we don't know the type, it might be a reflective TFT for example. Only time will tell

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