Is this a pirate site? - Page 2

JeremyR · 05-08-2012, 09:22 PM

It's funny, last night I was searching for more information about an old gaming magazine I was thinking about buying on ebay.

I simply typed in the name in a well known search engine, and one of the first few results was a download link to a PDF of it.

So yeah, pirate sites exist rather brazenly...

WT Sharpe · 05-09-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

Kindleboards.com

It is a great place to go for general Kindle discussion. The people are very friendly and helpful and informative. But there are very strict rules on discussing anything that violates Amazon's Terms of Service or that could be illegal. So you will not find much discussion of removing DRM, pros and cons, or rooting devices, or hacking devices, or anything along those lines. And no swearing or anything not family friendly.

I post there frequently. There are a lot of positives but they are very clear about what you can and cannot discuss.

Awesome discussion of all things accessories. If you are looking for a cover, purse, bag, screen protector, or the like you will find it there. The major brands all post there frequently with product updates and the like. There is a decent amount of member cross over.

As you said, they do allow some discussion DRM. From their guidelines (my emphasis & underline):

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- DRM (Digital Rights Management): We do not allow threads or posts that include instructions, or links to instructions, on ways to hack, crack, or otherwise get around DRM protections. The term 'DRM' refers to access control technologies used by publishers and copyright holders to limit usage of digital content. Kindle books, e-books in general, purchased music, and other published digital content typically contain DRM controls. It is acceptable to post about DRM in general, e.g. to discuss DRM-related issues and benefits.

ProfCrash · 05-09-2012, 10:06 AM

You can mention that it is possible and that is immediatly, or shortly after, followed by a post that is violates Amazons TOS and that we don't discuss that here. Trust me, been there, done that on many occassions. Yesterday it happened one someone asked about rooting the Kindle Fire.

So you can discuss the pros and cons but the second you discuss doing it there is a warning. Most people don't discuss it because most people there because the discussion is so stilted.

WT Sharpe · 05-09-2012, 10:16 AM

Yes, that's the impression I got. But you can discuss the benefits of DRM. That should attract a lot of MobileReaders!

tubemonkey · 05-09-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Yes, that's the impression I got. But you can discuss the benefits of DRM. That should attract a lot of MobileReaders!

I heart DRM

It keeps me honest. It keeps a steady supply of books coming from the wonderful publishers. God bless them everyone.

Now I'm off to dry some more banana peels

ProfCrash · 05-09-2012, 10:33 AM

It really is a good site just very different than here. It fills a different gap.

WT Sharpe · 05-09-2012, 10:35 AM

Joking aside, they do look pretty good, but strict. Are they affiliated with Amazon?

HarryT · 05-09-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Joking aside, they do look pretty good, but strict. Are they affiliated with Amazon?

I'd be surprised if they weren't from the "Kindle" in their name, which is an Amazon trademark. Amazon are pretty strict when it comes to enforcing their trademarks.

ProfCrash · 05-09-2012, 10:37 AM

They have something in place where if you order from a link on their site, they get some cash. I guess that is an affiliation. It is not a problem to say that you don't like the Kindle. There are sections to discuss other e-readers, Apple products and the like and those are active.

WT Sharpe · 05-09-2012, 10:43 AM

I noticed their guidelines state they will not only delete "non-KindleBoards Amazon affiliate links" but even reserve the right to "add links, or update links, in your KindleBoards posts with links that contain KindleBoards affiliate codes."

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- Posts related to Kindle books. Authors, we do allow you to post about your Kindle book, but only in the Book Bazaar board. See detailed author rules below. Do not post links that use non-KindleBoards Amazon affiliate links. We will delete your posts, or update your Amazon links to the KindleBoards affiliate link.

- Use of affiliate tags. We reserve the right to add links, or update links, in your KindleBoards posts with links that contain KindleBoards affiliate codes. We may delete or modify posts that contain outside affiliate links. Posting of outside affiliate links is against forum rules and may result in banning.

ProfCrash · 05-09-2012, 10:51 AM

For a while they had something with Teavana and would post Teavana links in the Tea Thread. It has been a few years since that happened. I think the effort is to keep some money coming in so that the board stays a float. (shrugs)

I have seen plenty of people post not nice things about Kindles and ask some hard questions. But it has a very different vibe than here.

AnemicOak · 05-09-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I noticed their guidelines state they will not only delete "non-KindleBoards Amazon affiliate links" but even reserve the right to "add links, or update links, in your KindleBoards posts with links that contain KindleBoards affiliate codes."

That seems to be the way quite a few forums for various things are run.

Andrew H. · 05-09-2012, 11:09 AM

KB is a really good site for someone who has just bought a Kindle and has technical questions or wants to learn about accessories, etc. I used to belong, but it's easy to outgrow the site once you've figured out a few things about your Kindle and have properly accessorized it.

The demographic seems different, too - much less techy, slightly older, more female, less highly educated.

ProfCrash · 05-09-2012, 11:45 AM

They are actually a pretty well educated bunch, they just have less interest in debating legalities and copyright and the like. They do love their accessories. The Writers Cafe is very active which is great for Independent Authors.

But yeah, it is more of a casual drop by to discuss Kindles, covers, and play some goofy games then it is for serious discussion of e-readers and topics around e-readers. I have gotten together with a bunch of the KB folks from my area for lunch three or four times. It is a more social groups than MR.

tubemonkey · 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

But yeah, it is more of a casual drop by to discuss Kindles, covers, and play some goofy games then it is for serious discussion of e-readers and topics around e-readers. I have gotten together with a bunch of the KB folks from my area for lunch three or four times. It is a more social groups than MR.

That's my impression too.

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05-08-2012, 09:22 PM	#16
JeremyR Guru Posts: 973 Karma: 2458402 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Device: Kindle Keyboard, Nook HD+	It's funny, last night I was searching for more information about an old gaming magazine I was thinking about buying on ebay. I simply typed in the name in a well known search engine, and one of the first few results was a download link to a PDF of it. So yeah, pirate sites exist rather brazenly...

05-09-2012, 10:06 AM	#18
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	You can mention that it is possible and that is immediatly, or shortly after, followed by a post that is violates Amazons TOS and that we don't discuss that here. Trust me, been there, done that on many occassions. Yesterday it happened one someone asked about rooting the Kindle Fire. So you can discuss the pros and cons but the second you discuss doing it there is a warning. Most people don't discuss it because most people there because the discussion is so stilted.

05-09-2012, 10:16 AM	#19
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	Yes, that's the impression I got. But you can discuss the benefits of DRM. That should attract a lot of MobileReaders!

05-09-2012, 10:33 AM	#21
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	It really is a good site just very different than here. It fills a different gap.

05-09-2012, 10:35 AM	#22
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	Joking aside, they do look pretty good, but strict. Are they affiliated with Amazon?

05-09-2012, 10:37 AM	#24
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	They have something in place where if you order from a link on their site, they get some cash. I guess that is an affiliation. It is not a problem to say that you don't like the Kindle. There are sections to discuss other e-readers, Apple products and the like and those are active.

05-09-2012, 10:51 AM	#26
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	For a while they had something with Teavana and would post Teavana links in the Tea Thread. It has been a few years since that happened. I think the effort is to keep some money coming in so that the board stays a float. (shrugs) I have seen plenty of people post not nice things about Kindles and ask some hard questions. But it has a very different vibe than here.

05-09-2012, 11:09 AM	#28
Andrew H. Grand Master of Flowers Posts: 2,201 Karma: 8389072 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Naptown Device: Kindle PW, Kindle 3 (aka Keyboard), iPhone, iPad 3 (not for reading)	KB is a really good site for someone who has just bought a Kindle and has technical questions or wants to learn about accessories, etc. I used to belong, but it's easy to outgrow the site once you've figured out a few things about your Kindle and have properly accessorized it. The demographic seems different, too - much less techy, slightly older, more female, less highly educated.

05-09-2012, 11:45 AM	#29
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	They are actually a pretty well educated bunch, they just have less interest in debating legalities and copyright and the like. They do love their accessories. The Writers Cafe is very active which is great for Independent Authors. But yeah, it is more of a casual drop by to discuss Kindles, covers, and play some goofy games then it is for serious discussion of e-readers and topics around e-readers. I have gotten together with a bunch of the KB folks from my area for lunch three or four times. It is a more social groups than MR.

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