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08-07-2011, 01:33 PM | #16 |
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Judging by most class action suits, about $1 per customer and $50 million for the lawyers.
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The fact that you can identify reasons for Apple to have done what they did does not at all mean that this was the *only* viable approach. And, in fact, it was a stupid approach because there was *no way* that it would be successful. Amazon has the best profit margins in the bookselling business, and they are at about 5%. Demanding 30% was never going to be successful. *Never*. I am also extremely skeptical that this will help iBooks at all - most people with iPads use the Kindle app to read on, and I don't see this changing anytime soon...particularly since I don't know many people who buy from the app anyway. I don't think that it will harm Apple overmuch either, as I don't think many people buy an iPad to read on, though. |
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08-07-2011, 02:43 PM | #18 |
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I don't have an iPad and in fact haven't had an Apple computer since about 1993, so can someone please put me right if I've got it wrong, because I'd quite like to get a tablet some time in the next 12 months and was vaguely thinking of an iPad.
Here's what I think it would give me. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
If that is correct, I don't think I'd be too worried about iBooks, unless Apple also bombards iPad owners with lots of publicity about iThis and iThat. |
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I don't know the details. I know that any impediment to purchase = less purchases, and that for some ebook retailers, the apps could be set to only allow viewing of books purchased through the app itself. Those can maybe be rewritten--or maybe not, depending on how the iOS deals with download & file storage. |
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I am hoping that people realize that Apple is trying to stifle the other media outlets and don't buy a damn thing that gives Apple any revenue for eBooks, magazines, and newspapers. I want to see iBooks go away. I want to see Apple not get 30% from anyone for doing nothing.
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Those weren't phones too though. When I got the HTC I had a convergence device. |
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My question had to do with the aspect of whether Apple's move could be considered anti-competitive; nothing to do with making lawyers rich or buying an iPad (which I have no desire to do). And the existence of other OSes doesn't exclude the possibility of anti-competitive behaviour. Microsoft wasn't the only company with an OS around, but they were sued because they were taking advantage of their market dominance. That was the point I made; I assure you, you are by no means the only human on the planet who has brilliantly figured out that there are alternatives to the iPad. Thanks for not reading the post before replying. Quote:
Supposedly, they've sold over 25 million units as of June 2011; since no other tablet manufacturer has really bragged about significant sales figures, I figured they didn't have much to brag about. If I had been asked to hazard a guess, I would have said 85-90%. But you're right - a mere 60% share, particularly if it's declining due to increased competition, is not enough for it to be considered anywhere close to a monopoly. Last edited by afa; 08-07-2011 at 04:53 PM. |
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Apple has had 75-80% of the MP3 player market for years. But no one found enough evidence they got that share through non-competitive behavior. I doubt anyone would argue that they don't have a monopoly on that market though. |
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08-07-2011, 05:51 PM | #30 |
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You have the option of purchasing other tablets, too.
That doesn't answer the question - why would it be bad for MS to charge 30% of all Internet sales, but it's not bad for Apple to charge 30% of the same sales for doing absolutely nothing? Why are the rules different for Steve Jobs? Why is he special? |
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