Epub to mobi - keep ToC format?

unknownsoldierx · 08-28-2014, 04:12 PM

When I convert a book it almost always changes the ToC. Removes and/or adds links. In most cases, removing subchapters.

For example, this one kept the subchapters, which is nice, but for some reason changed the links to all caps. It also removed the cover, title page, and table of contents links.

unknownsoldierx · 11-12-2014, 12:07 PM

How do I retain the original TOC format? The original epub has a nice TOC, but after conversion it looks like crap.

Also, for some reason the page count changed from 2306 to 2197.

kovidgoyal · 11-12-2014, 09:28 PM

http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conv...le-of-contents

unknownsoldierx · 11-12-2014, 10:16 PM

I was hoping there was a way for Calibre to hand this automatically. I have 150 books I've converted and every one I've looked at has this or similar problems. I tried the debug option, but I couldn't make sense of any of the files.

I don't have the time to go digging around in files for so many books, anyway. I suppose Calibre just isn't for me. I think for the sake of time efficiency, I'll look into replacing my Kindle with something that supports epub format.

Thanks.

eschwartz · 11-12-2014, 10:54 PM

Is your conversion options set to force use of the auto-generated ToC?

I haven't ever had these issues, so I certainly wouldn't expect the majority of books to have problems.

Pre-existing ToCs have always carried over perfectly, IME.

unknownsoldierx · 11-12-2014, 11:07 PM

Force use of the auto-generated ToC is unchecked. Conversion options are all set to defaults except that I chose Kindle as the output profile.

eschwartz · 11-12-2014, 11:32 PM

Report a bug, as per the instructions here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=186697

If the ToC is getting changed out from under you, that should be fixed.

kovidgoyal · 11-12-2014, 11:42 PM

I highly doubt that you have the conversion options set to default. If the input file has a metadata ToC it is most definitely preserved in the output file on conversion to MOBI.

unknownsoldierx · 11-12-2014, 11:54 PM

I just went through all the coversion settings and hit reset for each section to see what options I had changed. The only options that I had changed are:

In common options, under page setup, output format is set to "Kindle"
In ouput options for mobi, I have personal doc tag set to [EBOK] instead of [PDOC].

I've never changed any other options.

kovidgoyal · 11-13-2014, 12:14 AM

The global options will not affect books you have already converted. For those the previously used settings override them. You need to reset the settings in the conversion dialog for the individual book.

eschwartz · 11-13-2014, 12:22 AM

If you post a conversion log, we can see what options are enabled in the actual conversion. Could be an easy way to clear up the confusion...

unknownsoldierx · 11-13-2014, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

The global options will not affect books you have already converted. For those the previously used settings override them. You need to reset the settings in the conversion dialog for the individual book.

What I meant was, I hit the reset and watched the options to see if anything changed, so I could see if I had ever changed any of the options. I know I didn't change anything, but just to be sure.

Before I ever converted any books, I changed the output format and personal doc tag settings. Those are the only convert options I've ever changed, and I still have them set that way.

unknownsoldierx · 11-13-2014, 01:19 AM

Converted the same book as above. Log file attached.

kovidgoyal · 11-13-2014, 01:24 AM

Then you need to open a bug report and attach the epub file.

kovidgoyal · 11-13-2014, 01:26 AM

EDIT: Actually, looking at your screenshots, I'd guess the problem comes because your EPUB file has both an inline ToC and a metadata ToC. The MOBI format supports only an inline ToC, so the toc you get in the MOBI will be th einline TOC from the epub.

If you want the metadata toc used instead, convert to AZW3 instead of MOBI.

08-28-2014, 04:12 PM	#1
unknownsoldierx Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	Epub to mobi - keep ToC format? When I convert a book it almost always changes the ToC. Removes and/or adds links. In most cases, removing subchapters. For example, this one kept the subchapters, which is nice, but for some reason changed the links to all caps. It also removed the cover, title page, and table of contents links.

11-12-2014, 12:07 PM	#2
unknownsoldierx Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	How do I retain the original TOC format? The original epub has a nice TOC, but after conversion it looks like crap. Also, for some reason the page count changed from 2306 to 2197. Attached Thumbnails

11-12-2014, 11:54 PM	#9
unknownsoldierx Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	I just went through all the coversion settings and hit reset for each section to see what options I had changed. The only options that I had changed are: In common options, under page setup, output format is set to "Kindle" In ouput options for mobi, I have personal doc tag set to [EBOK] instead of [PDOC]. I've never changed any other options. Last edited by unknownsoldierx; 11-12-2014 at 11:58 PM.

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11-12-2014, 09:28 PM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,904 Karma: 22666668 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conv...le-of-contents

11-12-2014, 10:16 PM	#4
unknownsoldierx Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	I was hoping there was a way for Calibre to hand this automatically. I have 150 books I've converted and every one I've looked at has this or similar problems. I tried the debug option, but I couldn't make sense of any of the files. I don't have the time to go digging around in files for so many books, anyway. I suppose Calibre just isn't for me. I think for the sake of time efficiency, I'll look into replacing my Kindle with something that supports epub format. Thanks.

11-12-2014, 10:54 PM	#5
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Is your conversion options set to force use of the auto-generated ToC? I haven't ever had these issues, so I certainly wouldn't expect the majority of books to have problems. Pre-existing ToCs have always carried over perfectly, IME.

11-12-2014, 11:07 PM	#6
unknownsoldierx Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	Force use of the auto-generated ToC is unchecked. Conversion options are all set to defaults except that I chose Kindle as the output profile.

11-12-2014, 11:32 PM	#7
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Report a bug, as per the instructions here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=186697 If the ToC is getting changed out from under you, that should be fixed.

11-12-2014, 11:42 PM	#8
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,904 Karma: 22666668 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I highly doubt that you have the conversion options set to default. If the input file has a metadata ToC it is most definitely preserved in the output file on conversion to MOBI.

11-13-2014, 12:14 AM	#10
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,904 Karma: 22666668 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The global options will not affect books you have already converted. For those the previously used settings override them. You need to reset the settings in the conversion dialog for the individual book.

11-13-2014, 12:22 AM	#11
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	If you post a conversion log, we can see what options are enabled in the actual conversion. Could be an easy way to clear up the confusion...

11-13-2014, 01:24 AM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,904 Karma: 22666668 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Then you need to open a bug report and attach the epub file.

11-13-2014, 01:26 AM	#15
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,904 Karma: 22666668 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	EDIT: Actually, looking at your screenshots, I'd guess the problem comes because your EPUB file has both an inline ToC and a metadata ToC. The MOBI format supports only an inline ToC, so the toc you get in the MOBI will be th einline TOC from the epub. If you want the metadata toc used instead, convert to AZW3 instead of MOBI.

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