Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion US... Will Spiderman get therapy? - Page 3

Xiaopanda · 08-31-2009, 10:41 PM

Meh, Disney owns Miramax and (I could be wrong here , but I'm pretty sure I am not) Dimension films....... both of which also do non G-rated or kid friendly films.

I think it's gonna be situation normal for Marvel and all our beloved comic books heroes from our first (or second, thrird etc..) childhoods, though I'd like to see a phasing adamantium clawed stoogie smokin' Mickey...*snickttt*

Slite · 09-01-2009, 02:52 AM

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This is just wonderful. I can't wait for the Mickey Mouse / Punisher cross-over event.
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Maybe they'll change the punishers skull to this? (I have that t-shirt btw, and people usually get very upset with it)

Wario · 09-01-2009, 04:04 AM

This a smart move for Disney. (Business wise). Marvel products sells and in the movies department a big way. Not sure how Disney got Marvel on the cheap, I would value Marvel at $6-7 billion Mickey dollars.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 09-01-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Slite

Maybe they'll change the punishers skull to this? (I have that t-shirt btw, and people usually get very upset with it)

Whatever for?

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Originally Posted by Wario

This a smart move for Disney. (Business wise). Marvel products sells and in the movies department a big way. Not sure how Disney got Marvel on the cheap, I would value Marvel at $6-7 billion Mickey dollars.

As I said, those movie rights are still owned by other studios (Sony, Fox, Universal), and won't automatically revert to Disney upon this purchase. They won't be seeing a dime from SpiderMan, X-Men, Iron Man, Daredevil, Electra, Hulk or the FF movies. And if the rights don't revert, Disney can't make more movies for those characters.

All that's left is B-list characters, or A-listers that aren't as popular with the public. In fact, of the A-listers, there aren't many... Captain America being the largest... Thor is already under development at another studio, and it may be too late to reverse that... and many of the other female characters seem like analogues of established male characters (Spider Woman, She-Hulk), and will likely be ridiculed by the masses.

So Disney's potential isn't as high as it ought to be, for what they're paying for. I can't see how it can do much for them, without the exclusive rights to Marvel's most popular characters.

Slite · 09-01-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Whatever for?

Dunno really, must be the whole "Don't mess with the mouse" mentality

Personally, I love that shirt. Disturbia makes some very funny tees IMHO.

Jack Tingle · 09-01-2009, 09:33 AM

Meh.

Corporations buy one another all the time. Smart corporations try to minimize creative disruptions and maximize overhead synergy in non-critical areas. Disney is often smart. Marvel purchasing and logistics people should worry. I'm not sure anyone else will notice.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

Wario · 09-01-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Whatever for?

As I said, those movie rights are still owned by other studios (Sony, Fox, Universal), and won't automatically revert to Disney upon this purchase. They won't be seeing a dime from SpiderMan, X-Men, Iron Man, Daredevil, Electra, Hulk or the FF movies. And if the rights don't revert, Disney can't make more movies for those characters.

All that's left is B-list characters, or A-listers that aren't as popular with the public. In fact, of the A-listers, there aren't many... Captain America being the largest... Thor is already under development at another studio, and it may be too late to reverse that... and many of the other female characters seem like analogues of established male characters (Spider Woman, She-Hulk), and will likely be ridiculed by the masses.

So Disney's potential isn't as high as it ought to be, for what they're paying for. I can't see how it can do much for them, without the exclusive rights to Marvel's most popular characters.

That ture, but Marvel get a cut out of all Movies, cartoons and any thing that got their charaters on it.

Disney will do well, if they can manage with all charater they buying into.

As for license, that all different ball game, which will go well over my head

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Hellmark · 09-01-2009, 10:25 AM

Really, with The Avengers movies coming up, there really ain't much left unlicensed. Samuel L Jackson has signed a contract to appear in 11 movies as Nick Fury, (two already released, being just cameos).

pshrynk · 09-01-2009, 12:34 PM

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Aw, c'mon. Think of where this can go!

Ariel and the Beast as the newest members of the X-Men (she even has red hair like Phoenix!).

Wolverine in the reboot of Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolverine?

The new Fantastic Four - the Incredibles (oh wait - that was the what they were modeled on).

Now for Time-Warner to buy DC - Flash vs Speedy Gonzales, Daffy Duck vs Green Lantern.

Oohhh - my head is spinning!

Ummm, Time Warner does own DC...

Hellmark · 09-01-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Ummm, Time Warner does own DC...

And has been since 1969.

Dylrob · 09-02-2009, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

Well, as things stand, it'll be eons before any of the copyrights expire under current law. Most of marvel is from the '60s or the '70s, and has quite a bit that is newer. Current copyright life on works for hire is a 120 years from date of creation. I think they'll make that money back many times over in the 80-90 years they have left.

Technically it is the sooner of 120 years from creation or 90 95 years from first publication.

Riocaz · 09-02-2009, 05:08 AM

I still find it hard to believe that any corporation with the history of Marvel would grant rights in perpetuity...

But then again why would Sony/Fox etc lie?

Hellmark · 09-02-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylrob

Technically it is the sooner of 120 years from creation or 90 95 years from first publication.

Still, many of us will likely be dead before that comes.

pshrynk · 09-02-2009, 12:53 PM

I hope no one minds, but I edited the title of the thread to put the relevant "r" in Spiderman. It was driving me nuts...

Steven Lyle Jordan · 09-02-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

I hope no one minds, but I edited the title of the thread to put the relevant "r" in Spiderman. It was driving me nuts...

Who needs therapy now?...

Spiderman vs Pshrynk: The thrilla on the manilla couch! Whose great power--to save lives, or to edit--will result in the greatest angst? This will be a six-hankie, no-childhood-nightmares-barred death-match! Let's get rrrready to grrrrrumble!

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08-31-2009, 10:41 PM	#31
Xiaopanda Addict Posts: 230 Karma: 1290 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Meh, Disney owns Miramax and (I could be wrong here , but I'm pretty sure I am not) Dimension films....... both of which also do non G-rated or kid friendly films. I think it's gonna be situation normal for Marvel and all our beloved comic books heroes from our first (or second, thrird etc..) childhoods, though I'd like to see a phasing adamantium clawed stoogie smokin' Mickey...snickttt

09-01-2009, 04:04 AM	#33
Wario Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 11 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Device: Sony PRS-505	This a smart move for Disney. (Business wise). Marvel products sells and in the movies department a big way. Not sure how Disney got Marvel on the cheap, I would value Marvel at $6-7 billion Mickey dollars.

09-01-2009, 09:33 AM	#36
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	Meh. Corporations buy one another all the time. Smart corporations try to minimize creative disruptions and maximize overhead synergy in non-critical areas. Disney is often smart. Marvel purchasing and logistics people should worry. I'm not sure anyone else will notice. Regards, Jack Tingle

09-01-2009, 10:25 AM	#38
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,549 Karma: 3799999 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: O'Fallon, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3	Really, with The Avengers movies coming up, there really ain't much left unlicensed. Samuel L Jackson has signed a contract to appear in 11 movies as Nick Fury, (two already released, being just cameos).

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Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	I still find it hard to believe that any corporation with the history of Marvel would grant rights in perpetuity... But then again why would Sony/Fox etc lie?

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pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I hope no one minds, but I edited the title of the thread to put the relevant "r" in Spiderman. It was driving me nuts...

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