Which format for kindle Voyage and how to get it there - Page 2

Pyr0 · 08-11-2016, 01:15 PM

Hi,

I know that this thread is quite old, but the topic seems relevant, and is quite up in the google results. As of today (August 2016), is AZW3 the best format for the voyage?. I'm getting one in a couple of days and all my collection is in epub. Isn't KFX the best format for KV today?.

Any tips to fine tune Calibre for best reading experience with KV?.

Thanks!

eschwartz · 08-11-2016, 04:06 PM

KFX can be generated by the KFX Output plugin for calibre, which requires you have Amazon's Kindle Previewer program installed.

Do you need the KFX-only features? KFX is still not understood very well (although there is basic read-only metadata support) and you cannot use it as a backup format.
AZW3 basically does everything an ebook needs to do.

Pyr0 · 08-11-2016, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

KFX can be generated by the KFX Output plugin for calibre, which requires you have Amazon's Kindle Previewer program installed.

Do you need the KFX-only features? KFX is still not understood very well (although there is basic read-only metadata support) and you cannot use it as a backup format.
AZW3 basically does everything an ebook needs to do.

It's not that "i need" KFX features, I mean, I've been reading my books on a KK converting from epub and/or pdf to mobi. It's just that recently I found out about the new possibilities of my (new)KV and so I tough it would be nice to have them available. Basically I wan't to improve my reading experience overall.

eschwartz · 08-11-2016, 07:25 PM

Need, want, what is the difference?

If you are converting from EPUB anyway it is not much of a burden to install a plugin and convert to KFX instead of AZW3.
So go right ahead, if it has features you need want.

theducks · 08-11-2016, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyr0

It's not that "i need" KFX features, I mean, I've been reading my books on a KK converting from epub and/or pdf to mobi. It's just that recently I found out about the new possibilities of my (new)KV and so I tough it would be nice to have them available. Basically I wan't to improve my reading experience overall.

Rarely do you GAIN by converting (without further edits).
EPUB to AZW3 is basically a copy embedded.

BetterRed · 08-11-2016, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Need, want, what is the difference?

Want vs. Need: Economics for Kids - Part 1

BR

eschwartz · 08-11-2016, 07:48 PM

theducks -- the issue is that KFX switches on restricted features in the Kindle rendering engine... that is THE one an only reason people even mention the existence of KFX.

It is lossy, prerendered AZW3 with special features enable.

eschwartz · 08-11-2016, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Want vs. Need: Economics for Kids - Part 1

BR

Oh, you are an absolute hoot. Just watch me roll with laughter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz, apparently

Pyr0 · 08-11-2016, 08:09 PM

Ok then, I'll try converting my epubs to KFX. Also I should try APXN generator (I believe Count Pages plugin does this too) and X-RAY Creator to get the "full amazon" experience? Or those are not really necessary?

eschwartz · 08-11-2016, 09:44 PM

"full Amazon" experience? I prefer to think of it as the "full Pyr0" experience -- assuming pseudo-random generated page numbers and X-Ray character mappings are things that you feel enhances your reading.

Allow me to repeat: Use whatever tools are available to enable or unlock features that you find useful.

If you want page numbers, use the relevant option in the Kindle device driver.
If you want X-Ray character mappings, use X-Ray Builder (or the new calibre plugin).
If you want Page Flip and/or whatever else is touted as KFX-only restricted features, use the KFX Output plugin to create KFX -- but I don't think the other two are compatible with KFX.The format itself still hasn't been decoded.

08-11-2016, 09:44 PM	#25
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	"full Amazon" experience? I prefer to think of it as the "full Pyr0" experience -- assuming pseudo-random generated page numbers and X-Ray character mappings are things that you feel enhances your reading. Allow me to repeat: Use whatever tools are available to enable or unlock features that you find useful. If you want page numbers, use the relevant option in the Kindle device driver. If you want X-Ray character mappings, use X-Ray Builder (or the new calibre plugin). If you want Page Flip and/or whatever else is touted as KFX-only restricted features, use the KFX Output plugin to create KFX -- but I don't think the other two are compatible with KFX.The format itself still hasn't been decoded.

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08-11-2016, 01:15 PM	#16
Pyr0 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3 wifi, Kindle Voyage	Hi, I know that this thread is quite old, but the topic seems relevant, and is quite up in the google results. As of today (August 2016), is AZW3 the best format for the voyage?. I'm getting one in a couple of days and all my collection is in epub. Isn't KFX the best format for KV today?. Any tips to fine tune Calibre for best reading experience with KV?. Thanks!

08-11-2016, 04:06 PM	#17
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	KFX can be generated by the KFX Output plugin for calibre, which requires you have Amazon's Kindle Previewer program installed. Do you need the KFX-only features? KFX is still not understood very well (although there is basic read-only metadata support) and you cannot use it as a backup format. AZW3 basically does everything an ebook needs to do.

08-11-2016, 07:25 PM	#19
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Need, want, what is the difference? If you are converting from EPUB anyway it is not much of a burden to install a plugin and convert to KFX instead of AZW3. So go right ahead, if it has features you need want.

08-11-2016, 07:48 PM	#22
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	theducks -- the issue is that KFX switches on restricted features in the Kindle rendering engine... that is THE one an only reason people even mention the existence of KFX. It is lossy, prerendered AZW3 with special features enable.

08-11-2016, 08:09 PM	#24
Pyr0 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard 3 wifi, Kindle Voyage	Ok then, I'll try converting my epubs to KFX. Also I should try APXN generator (I believe Count Pages plugin does this too) and X-RAY Creator to get the "full amazon" experience? Or those are not really necessary?

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