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everyone is a critic.
I'm late to the debate, and it's mainly been said.
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Forest J. Ackerman intended it for stories that had the form but not the substance of serious SF. The mass media, ever subtle, applies it to everything. |
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Lol, you should read the Bible. Also a bit dated, but rampant atheism at least is missing.
It is called SCIENCE fiction, not RELIGIOUS fiction. |
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I have to say I would definitely not recommend Asimov to a non-SF reader to try to convert them. Foundation especially.
The Robot stories might be a bit more accessible. It's a long time since I read them. I wouldn't recommend Clarke or Heinlein, either. Bradbury, maybe, for that era? |
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I would say that Heinlein's Have Spacesuit, Will Travel is a very good introduction to science fiction. |
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50's era Heinlein is a good intro to newcomers.
Any of the juvenies if they're young; THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS if they're older. His first novel (BEYOND THIS HORIZON) is probably a bit better for sheer accessibility. Asimov? NIGHTFALL is probably a good intro to what he's all about. Clarke? Oh, go straight to CHILDHOOD'S END. And since Herbert keeps coming up; yes, do DUNE. Avoid all sequels, avoid SANTAROGA BARRIER, HELLSTROM'S HIVE and most of his work other than UNDER PRESSURE, at least until you're familiar with the genre. Accessible he ain't. Bradbury is in many ways the opposite of Asimov and Clark; more about mood and style than idea and concept. A SOUND OF THUNDER is probably as accessible he gets. |
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I've always felt that Heinlein's Double Star was an under-rated book. It has a lot to say about the nature of personal identity. (wasn't there a Kurasawa film with the same theme?)
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The sequels written by Frank Herbert (Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, and Chapterhouse: Dune) are good, not great (worth reading, but you won't miss much if you ignore the final three). The Dune books to avoid are the abominations by Brian Herbert (Frank's son) and Kevin J. Anderson. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Quote:
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