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Old 07-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #901
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Planet Baen Server Migration on Monday at 11 am Pacific

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I'm switching us to Amazon's cloud hosting tomorrow. In order to do this, I need to take down the site for several hours while I switch IPs, which entails re-keying SSL in addition to the DNS changes. Once we're at Amazon we'll have an elastic IP and will be able to scale up with minimal downtime, theoretically.

The site will be offline for several hours. Your freeholds will be frozen at the same point in the cycle that I do the database backup. Even when we do come back up, full DNS propagation can take over a day.

Hopefully the move will go smoothly and performance will be good afterward. We'll see.

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Old 07-16-2012, 10:16 AM   #902
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What. The. Hell.

I had a pretty stable Freehold with over 30 million surplus in food and energy, and 2 billion Baenbucks. And stable in that I could leave it for several cycles and not much would get depleted. I checked it a couple of days ago, then had a busy weekend and didn't do anything with it.

I lot in today to find I have 0 Baen Bucks and I have 40 million in deficits for energy and food. Seriously???? A 2% population growth and a couple of whacks shouldn't have eaten well over 2 billion Baen Bucks and put me that far into the hole. I think I may be done with this game. Between the super slow levelling without much to do between levels and now this.....

I think the problem is people who are stalled on levelling are just sitting there accumulating bucks so they're trying to do something to not have them destabilize the game. So levelling is hugely expensive at that point, etc. But it really introduces more imbalance the way they've gone about it. If you're NOT stalled at a level for a while, say as a new player, it's going to be difficult to get what you need to level up.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:16 AM   #903
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And that's why I keep a tiny, tiny pop.

They do keep trying to move the goalposts to "balance" against what looks like a few people, while decidedly unbalancing the game for everyone else. Instead of merely increasing the Bucks requirement, they should probably just send people into multi-Project loops where instead of being able to buy the better new level assets, you should have to build each and every one of them.

That would introduce more strategy into the game (I need X spaces free for Y project components, what can I afford to sacrifice) and give people something they actively need to do instead of passively waiting for the Bucks to pile up like I am (8 more days until Level 18, unless they move the goalposts again).

Well, if the game's offline starting with the next few hours, it'll give me a chance to finish up my lab report with fewer distractions.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:21 PM   #904
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Even a huge pop should not have depleted ALL of my Baenbucks. And I don't think I had a huge pop. It wasn't tiny, but checking it once a day I didn't see any significant difference to my surplus numbers so it was very balanced with the assets that I had. I wasn't relying on huge surges or even regular surges to maintain. I can understand some whacks, but so many whacks that it used up 2.6 billion bucks and put me that far in the red over two days??

I'm sure they tinkered with something or changed an equation that put me so far in the hole. But even a whack every cycle shouldn't have removed ALL of my Baenbucks.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:36 PM   #905
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mnfe - search the bar messages. someone else had a problem where their bucks went negative. It might have hit you.

In any case, Bob might give you a few back, once he gets the game moved to the new servers.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:37 PM   #906
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Planet is back up...
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:58 PM   #907
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Planet is back up...
Well I'm still not up.

I refresh the page am presented with this message.

"Planet Baen is undergoing a planned migration to a new server.
This may take several hours. Thank you for your patience. "
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:03 PM   #908
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It'll depend on how long the DNS takes to propagate to your ISP (should be fairly fast, as the are using GoDaddy).

HOWEVER, it is running dirt slow - as bad as last week when Bob was on vacation. I suspect because of the move and possibly because it is still "moving" but allowing play, anyway.
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Well I wasn't planning on doing much with my freehold untill tomorrow, so hopefully I'll have it back by then.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:16 PM   #910
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It'll depend on how long the DNS takes to propagate to your ISP (should be fairly fast, as the are using GoDaddy).

HOWEVER, it is running dirt slow - as bad as last week when Bob was on vacation. I suspect because of the move and possibly because it is still "moving" but allowing play, anyway.
Didn't godaddy support SOPA?

How un bænlike.
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Seems to be back up and tolerable speed - about 50 minutes until next cycle.
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Yes they did, until they started to get mass cancellations of accounts. Then they backed off real quick. But it seems memories are short.
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For those not on the Baen Bar, the mystery is solved. If you leave your freehold unattended for 8 cycles, it starts to degrade and you lose all your money. They are changing that soon.
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I was in at the Beta testing and also at the first from the new launch. I have a question for which I suspect the answer is somewhere in the 50+ previous pages but I don't have the time to read it all , so what really does joining an alliance or having someone join your alliance gain you?
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