04-25-2013, 03:03 PM | #196 |
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Assuming that wasn't the current score of a soccer game you were citing , where would one specify those zeroes, etc.? I have not previously had enough interest (or necessity) in getting into the css changes, etc. (or whatever they're called). But now that you mention a way to recoup some of the wasted space I always see on my Kobo Glo, I'm wondering if this is a global change I can make? Or whether, instead, it must be applied to each and every book?
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04-25-2013, 03:18 PM | #197 |
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p, body {widows: 0; orphans: 0} via calibre conversion. The "p" probably overkill but I was to lazy to try out if it works when it's only in the body, some css characteristics sadly don't work when they are in the body while others don't. |
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To get line spacing of 1.3 instead of 1.0, what would I change on the Look & Feel page in Calibre? Minimum line height = 130%? |
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In the v1 sample, there is just 1 line left of the paragraph. It would have easily fit on the screen. I'll try putting the widows and orphans in the p style and post v1 again for another sample look. Last edited by JSWolf; 04-25-2013 at 04:16 PM. |
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Edit : I went through the whole book and there is one place where you end up with just three lines on a page (p. 25) not sure those three lines could fit on the previous page if widows 0 and orphans 0 settings were working as expected, there is one other place where there are just 4 lines on the page (p. 97) they for sure would not fit on the previous page unless they went over top of the page numbers at the bottom. so at most I think you might save one page turn in the whole book, not sure it would be worth the effort. The page numbering is also a bit strange, going from page 6 to page 9 and then page 11 etc. There is no page 7, 8 or 10. Last edited by jiminrussell; 04-25-2013 at 05:03 PM. |
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If you want real full screen text, there is a port of the kindlepdfreader in the devforum, which offers it. Sadly it's not based on the newer version which is better suited for touchscreen devices, but it's useable. Quote:
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If you have one with bad formatting you might end up with the few lines per page bug every 10 pages or so. It happens very rarely and the book must be really screwed up, but it can happen. The real benefit is for me that you usually get one or two lines text more on the screen with the value set, then otherwise. Looking at your Screenshot, the empty at the bottom looks rather big compared to my Glo. Last edited by ewphoenix123; 04-25-2013 at 05:11 PM. |
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I don't use this option myself, I have Min. line height=0% and Line height=0pt I prefer to selectively delete line-height settings from the css so that I can set it via my various reading devices instead. Quote:
The oddity you pointed out is a fairly typical, but totally unpredictable (at least by me), quirk. So I guess my experience is different from ewphoenix123 in this respect. I know that my epubs are well-formatted but I still get 'one-line gaps' at the end of some pages even when the end of the paragraph will easily fit. I'll try adding p {widows: 0; orphans: 0} as well but I'm not convinced it will fix anything. I'm quite happy to be wrong. Edit: I did try it and the results don't look to be any different from just having body {widows: 0; orphans: 0} YMMV Last edited by jackie_w; 04-25-2013 at 05:40 PM. Reason: update after quick test |
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It's been said that 1.3 is the minimum line spacing used. So if you have no line-height in the CSS, you'll get 1.3. If you do what I did and add a line-height, you'll be able to get a smaller line height if you want.
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Forgive me if I sound curmondgedly, but to someone who is not au fait with altering epub css etc, this thread had deviated from "Kobo Rocks" to "How to Create the Perfect Epub". Fascinating to read but I am not sure if it is in keeping with the original purpose of this thread. If I am wrong in this, I am happy to be corrected.
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The length of a line in many books is between 60 and 70 characters per line. LaTeX, a much used typesetting system, uses a default of 67 characters per line, as it's considered the "best" line length for reading. The Kindle can do it, but then the fonts become too small for me to read. This may be an odd request, but.... could you please try this? - Set the smallest margins possible. - Set the line height to the smallest settings. - Set the font size to such a size that the number of characters per line becomes around 67. (Anything in between 60 and 70 would do, but 67 would be the perfect target.) How many lines are on the page with these settings? I'd also very much like to see a picture. Very much thanks for your efforts. This would be one of my main considerations for an ereader such as the Aura HD. It seems the first reader that actually might be able to display mass market paperback pages 1 on 1 (which I've counted to be around 2400 characters per page.) If I don't gain a lot of text on screen using the same font sizes as I do on the Kindle, then a switch to the Aura would not be worth it for me at this time. ==== Also, if someone can test this: - Does the font weight setting work on custom fonts? - Does it work on side-loaded epubs? - Do all functions with regard to reading progress and the chapter graph work, on side-loaded epubs? I don't mind to convert to kepub to make these things work. Having font weight work on custom fonts would be a very nice bonus, but I can understand that you need some sort of special font format to make that work. Thanks for anyone who can test this. ==== And lastly.... The book title on the top can be disabled. Can the page number on the bottom also be disabled? It would fit another 2 lines, and I don't really need to see "Page X from Y" all the time. Last edited by Katsunami; 04-25-2013 at 07:14 PM. |
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About 80-90 characters per line with 51 lines. Last edited by JSWolf; 04-25-2013 at 07:18 PM. |
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If the Kobo does not go below a line height of 1.3, and resets this to 1.3 every time a setting is changed, then I take 1.3 as the lowest maximum. I don't want to run over to the computer to put in the correct line height after I change anything. I'd really like to see a page with a font setting that allows around +/- 65 characters per line, using only the the e-reader itself for setting the line height. Also, I really like to know if that page display can be disabled. It wastes too much space on screen IMHO. |
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