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I don't think that the system to embed user data that I hypothesized for my "social DRM" needs to be more robust than current DRM towards removal. The main force towards preventing illegal distribution will be the fact that people will not give a copy of their files to any friend of a friend who asks them, because they will know that those files could end up on the net... with the embedded data in place. Isn't it like that also with current DRM systems? Also: I'm not sure that a change of law would be necessary. Maybe only a change of Terms of Service would do. |
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11-13-2012, 04:05 AM | #274 | ||
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My point is that current DRM schemes take away most of the rights of ownership from consumers, with the "trick" of making them licensees instead of owners of the files they download. However if a file gets stripped of its DRM and illegally distributed, in practice the original buyer does not risk anything (even when she/he is the actual distributor). The risk is so low that this seems to be some kind of sport for some people. I'm proposing to switch to a system of social DRM where consumers own the files they buy and are free to do with them whatever they feel appropriate; but in this system owners share a part of responsibility if their decisions about what to do with their files lead to illegal distribution. It's the switch from being considered (from media companies) as irresponsible children to becoming responsible, adult consumers who have the right to decide of what they do with whatever they buy. Just as it is with physical goods. |
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Thanks, HansTWN. For the sake of discussion, here is my proposal for "social DRM":
Media files are sold (not licensed) to buyers. When a buyer downloads a media file, her/his own copy of it includes embedded metadata that allow the seller to identify who bought it, and when. Buyers can do whatever they want with their files, such as giving a copy of them to their family; on the other side, they have a responsibility in the consequences of what they do. If a media file gets illegally distributed (e.g., it is published on a torrent site) the original buyer of that file is considered responsible of illegal distribution along with the actual distributor, unless one or both of the following conditions apply: 1) on day X, before the illegal distribution, the owner of the file notified the police of a theft of property or data which included media files, and the illegally distributed file was purchased before day X; 2) the file owner is able to identify the physical person who actually distributed the file, and this person confirms to have done that, taking all the responsibility of the act. |
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11-13-2012, 05:24 AM | #278 | |
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Ebooks are not paper books. At the moment, vendors get full advantage of the difference (e.g., no print costs) and consumers can't (e.g., you can't give your books to your friends or family to read; you can't even let your family get your library if you die!). My idea is that it is possible to acknowledge the difference between ebooks and pbooks and share the advantages between sellers and buyers. By the way, pbooks are not tied to physical readers or licenses. Everyone in my home can read one of my pbooks, at the same time, with no copyright infringement. On the contrary, if I lend my Kindle to someone I can't read anything until it gets back. |
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. On the one hand you're saying that you don't believe that giving away copies of a book to anyone you wish to do so should be copyright infringement, but then you say "you can expect to get into trouble for illegal distribution". If you're saying that it shouldn't be illegal to distribute copies of a book, how could there be illegal distribution?
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The police also won't thank customers reporting everytime they get a rootkit/trojan on their PC which could have given outsiders access to their movies/ebooks. They'd end up doing nothing but filling in report forms. In addition, it may not always be a rootkit or trojan installed that'll help show files were stolen without your knowledge (assuming you can show you didn't install it yourself). What about anyone who takes their PC for repair and has an unscrupulous employee copy some music/books whilst they're backing up the machine to reinstall? In time sufficient people may complain that they've been falsely accused and eventually it might lead back to a company who employs that person. However, until all those threads are tied together, if ever, you'll have people accused of file sharing facing life ruining fines. My one fear with social DRM is actually related to what happens IF someone does indeed gain unauthorised access to your PC and copies your files. You may not know about it nor be able to prove it and may find your life is about to be ruined with huge fines you'll never be able to pay all because you did the right thing and PAID legally for your entertainment. It'd be safer to pirate the content then if someone copies it off you and goes on to widely distribute it themselves, you're not on the hook for it. If you get caught downloading, well that's a minor issue compared to the fines you face for uploading or been considered a distributor/source. Not really how it should work imho. Last edited by JoeD; 11-13-2012 at 07:11 AM. |
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I am glad we don't have that scheme here. You pay a surchage on every SD card, hard disk, blank CD or DVD, etc. And in the end you might have paid more than you would have buying the items. On top of it all the money is being distributed by politicians and trade groups. I prefer to directly support those who I think deserve it.
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