Android now #1 Phone OS - Page 2

Graham · 02-01-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

show me the evidence that it has ceased to be a difference maker...and I'll accept it. Many want to simply wish it away (as you tried to do), but, of course, reality does not work that way.

Surely the evidence that Apple's app store is not a huge differentiator is the article linked in the original post, the fact that Android phones are outselling iPhones by 2:1 globally?

Graham

=X= · 02-01-2011, 12:27 PM

I just read this at the Phandroid site and thought it was too funny.

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Ray wrote

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First let me say that I am not a fan of Apple. With that being said, maybe Apple has it right, one phone, one tablet and incremental software upgrades so everyone is pretty much equal. Android has too many phones, too many tabs coming, too may versions of its software. I think they need to streamline and consolidate a little better.

comrade wrote

Ray just described normal market conditions of my youth in USSR 20 years ago

companies making reliable, but simple and boring products and deciding what the ‘consumer’ needs and the “party” approving everything they’re allowed to have

)))))

There you have it Apple is communistic.

=X=

boswd · 02-01-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

That have access to the best in class IOS app store? Because that is a huge differentiator no one manufacturer can match.

Ohh plueeez that's an old and tired argument. All major apps are available on both iOs and Android. Each OS app store has some the other does not.

So ok iPhone has 15,000 fart apps and the android has only 1,000. Whatever, Android's Marketplace is just as good.

This argument rang true a year or two ago but today, it's a non issue.

boswd · 02-01-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

You cannot sell Android, is open source ...

I am not surprise by Android taking the lead in smartphone Os. It is based on Linux, one of the most stable operating systems in the world. Its low memory footprint and kernel make it suitable for small devices like cellphones or tablets. Besides Google has made a nice work, in my opinion, providing a nice but powerful UI.

every now and then Joe you and I are on the same page

I'm a convert, I was an iPhone guy until the Droids became high end. IMHO there is no comparison.

=X= · 02-01-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd

every now and then Joe you and I are on the same page

Another tear-jerking

moment brought to you by Joe and Boswd.

HarryT · 02-01-2011, 02:07 PM

Personally I'm very happy that we have the choice of two such excellent platforms as iOS and Android; each is driving the other forward. I'm extremely satisfied with my iPhone; I know that many people are equally happy with their Android devices.

Graham · 02-01-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Personally I'm very happy that we have the choice of two such excellent platforms as iOS and Android; each is driving the other forward. I'm extremely satisfied with my iPhone; I know that many people are equally happy with their Android devices.

Exactly. I'm looking forward to see what Apple does with the iPhone 5, and what response that triggers from Google later in the year.

Graham

kennyc · 02-01-2011, 02:20 PM

Actually I don't think Google cares what apple does. I think they are on their own path.

boswd · 02-01-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Personally I'm very happy that we have the choice of two such excellent platforms as iOS and Android; each is driving the other forward. I'm extremely satisfied with my iPhone; I know that many people are equally happy with their Android devices.

yup, I'm no longer an iPhone guy but as long as the OS's keep one uping each other, we the consumer can only benefit

RockdaMan · 02-01-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham

Android phones are outselling iPhones by 2:1 globally?

Graham

To people who would otherwise have bought a Blackberry or a Nokia. Have you noticed that Apple's iPhone sales growth has not been stunted one bit...but Rim and Nokia's growth has?

Lets have this conversation when iPhone sales take a sudden drop while Android phone sales continue to grow.

RockdaMan · 02-04-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

To people who would otherwise have bought a Blackberry or a Nokia. Have you noticed that Apple's iPhone sales growth has not been stunted one bit...but Rim and Nokia's growth has?

Lets have this conversation when iPhone sales take a sudden drop while Android phone sales continue to grow.

A study was released today that sort of confirms this.

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Yesterday Apple and Verizon opened up the pre-order online store for existing Verizon customers to reserve an iPhone 4. Verizon Wireless issued a press release stating that they stopped taking pre-orders last night at 8:10 pm EST in their most successful first day of sales in their history.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phone...n-history/5411

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Online sample company uSamp, which conducted a "highly profiled online panel" of more than 700 smartphone users in late January, published the results Thursday. The survey found that 54 percent of respondents who have an Android or BlackBerry smartphone on Verizon are either very likely (25 percent) or somewhat likely (29 percent) to purchase the Verizon iPhone when it arrives next week.

The report could signal particularly grim news for Research in Motion, as BlackBerry users demonstrated higher interest in switching to the iPhone, with 66 percent indicating a probable switch, compared to 44 percent of Android users. RIM's BlackBerry has lost significant share on Verizon as the carrier has heavily promoted its Android offerings. With the arrival of the iPhone, the BlackBerry on Verizon has been relegated to third place.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...rvey_says.html

Graham · 02-04-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

To people who would otherwise have bought a Blackberry or a Nokia. Have you noticed that Apple's iPhone sales growth has not been stunted one bit...but Rim and Nokia's growth has?

The point being made was that since Android is outselling iPhone by 2:1 globally it is impossible to argue that the iOS app market is a "huge differentiator" in the favour of iPhone over Android.

In fact if one were to follow the logic it would go like this:

Hypothesis: the platform's app market is a huge differentiator for consumers when it comes to selecting between iPhone and Android.

Fact: in the last quarter, globally, Android outsold iPhone by 2:1.

Conclusion: the Android app market is better than the iPhone's.

Your strawman is of course correct, as all good strawmen should be. Both Android and iPhone are eating into the market share of Blackberry and Nokia.

Graham

RockdaMan · 02-04-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham

Both Android and iPhone are eating into the market share of Blackberry and Nokia.

True.

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