You couldn't make this up...

GeoffC · 07-24-2008, 11:02 AM

This speaks for itself...let the comments begin...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7523147.stm

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 11:09 AM

That's actually fairly common practice, to use old ships to test naval munitions on. You can't really tell how a weapon will perform unless you actually use it.

The most remarkable thing to me is that they felt it needed to be reported on.

The footage of the explosion was pretty cool though -- broke it right in half!

GeoffC · 07-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

That's actually fairly common practice, to use old ships to test naval munitions on. You can't really tell how a weapon will perform unless you actually use it.

The most remarkable thing to me is that they felt it needed to be reported on.

The footage of the explosion was pretty cool though -- broke it right in half!

yes, I agree it's fairly common practice, even amongst allies...worryingly it "only" took one torpedo...and the speed of the destruction does not suggest many survivors would have the chance to get to any life-boats...etc...

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 11:27 AM

But that's kinda the whole point of submarines, GeoffC, to kill the other guy when they're not looking. War is a nasty business, any way you slice it. I think they also cut some of the sinking time out of the footage, which made it look even faster.

Besides, I think that was only a frigate (and an old one, at that), it'd take at least two of those torps to kill a carrier.

Greg Anos · 07-24-2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

But that's kinda the whole point of submarines, GeoffC, to kill the other guy when they're not looking. War is a nasty business, any way you slice it. I think they also cut some of the sinking time out of the footage, which made it look even faster.

Besides, I think that was only a frigate (and an old one, at that), it'd take at least two of those torps to kill a carrier.

And an EPA HAZMAT filing....

RickyMaveety · 07-24-2008, 11:57 AM

Ahhhh ... not so much an EPA problem. Those old ships make fine reefs for fishies.

Cool video!!

Greg Anos · 07-24-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Ahhhh ... not so much an EPA problem. Those old ships make fine reefs for fishies.

Cool video!!

Yes, but virtually all carriers have a nuclear reactor.....

VillageReader · 07-24-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

That's actually fairly common practice, to use old ships to test naval munitions on. You can't really tell how a weapon will perform unless you actually use it.

The most remarkable thing to me is that they felt it needed to be reported on.

The footage of the explosion was pretty cool though -- broke it right in half!

In the dim and distant past worked at Gould in the test department on the Mark 48 - affectionately knows as the green weenie. If you watch the explosion it is midship, blowing water from underneath the ship. A ship isn't designed to support itself only on the bow & stern.

RickyMaveety · 07-24-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Yes, but virtually all carriers have a nuclear reactor.....

Except that the ship wasn't a carrier. And, I would expect them to disable/remove a reactor before decommissioning a ship.

Spartacus2112 · 07-24-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Except that the ship wasn't a carrier. And, I would expect them to disable/remove a reactor before decommissioning a ship.

Even Dubya could have figured out that.....but then again, he may have asked to have the nucUlar reactor decommissioned.

LazyScot · 07-25-2008, 06:02 AM

Heard on Radio 4 (UK serious talk radio station):

Interview with some scientists about a survey of sharks

Interviewer: "So what are you looking for?"

Scientist: "We're looking for fins."

(Or was this a way to get a free trip to Scandinavia?)

GeoffC · 07-25-2008, 06:41 AM

On a packet of peanuts; may contain nuts...
On the bottom of a jar; keep upright...

RickV · 07-25-2008, 07:41 AM

also take into consideration, when they do these kinds of tests, they generally don't close the various hatches that are required to be closed during General Quarters. I'm not saying that the outcome would have been different, but simply would have taken longer.

Sparrow · 07-25-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

On a packet of peanuts; may contain nuts...

Peanuts aren't nuts they're legumes (peas), so people may not realise a packet of peanuts may contain traces of nuts - hence the warning.

LazyScot · 07-25-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

Peanuts aren't nuts they're legumes (peas), so people may not realise a packet of peanuts may contain traces of nuts - hence the warning.

I've often wondered if the workers where the products are labelled "Made in a factory that handles nuts" could sue for deformation of character.

(If I remember correctly Topic may contain nuts).

07-24-2008, 11:02 AM	#1
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07-24-2008, 11:09 AM	#2
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	That's actually fairly common practice, to use old ships to test naval munitions on. You can't really tell how a weapon will perform unless you actually use it. The most remarkable thing to me is that they felt it needed to be reported on. The footage of the explosion was pretty cool though -- broke it right in half!

07-24-2008, 11:27 AM	#4
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	But that's kinda the whole point of submarines, GeoffC, to kill the other guy when they're not looking. War is a nasty business, any way you slice it. I think they also cut some of the sinking time out of the footage, which made it look even faster. Besides, I think that was only a frigate (and an old one, at that), it'd take at least two of those torps to kill a carrier.

07-24-2008, 11:57 AM	#6
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07-25-2008, 07:41 AM	#13
RickV Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 198 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: none	also take into consideration, when they do these kinds of tests, they generally don't close the various hatches that are required to be closed during General Quarters. I'm not saying that the outcome would have been different, but simply would have taken longer.

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