Live Blogs - Apple Press Event 12 Sep 12

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Looks like a minor update aside from the display, processor, camera, audio, wifi, software and physical dimensions.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by Graham

No NFC does look like the only significant missed opportunity, but it probably needed Apple to introduce it to make it mainstream, so they may not have missed the boat here. It gives them an obvious feature in the wings for the iPhone 5S.

I think that would make it the iPhone 5N, no?

[foghat]

Originally Posted by afv011

Because I use my brain for decisions instead of letting marketing buzzwords do the work for me?

You mean buzzwords like 'innovation'?

[foghat]

Originally Posted by Graham

It's a good enough upgrade for all those coming to the end of their iPhone 4 contracts, so will sell well. At the end of the day, that's all Apple needed to do. I guess most 4S owners are locked in for another 6 months to a year.

No NFC does look like the only significant missed opportunity, but it probably needed Apple to introduce it to make it mainstream, so they may not have missed the boat here. It gives them an obvious feature in the wings for the iPhone 5S.

Graham

Agreed. No way I was going from 4 to 4s. This is worthwhile upgrade to the 4.

[WT Sharpe]

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[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by foghat

This is worthwhile upgrade to the 4.

would you consider the little green robot? why or why not?

[Dylrob]

So they released everything that was rumored to be released and nothing else. Absolutely no surprise announcements...

Well that pretty much cements the iPad mini announcement in October.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by Graham

It's a good enough upgrade for all those coming to the end of their iPhone 4 contracts, so will sell well. At the end of the day, that's all Apple needed to do. I guess most 4S owners are locked in for another 6 months to a year.

No NFC does look like the only significant missed opportunity, but it probably needed Apple to introduce it to make it mainstream, so they may not have missed the boat here. It gives them an obvious feature in the wings for the iPhone 5S.

Graham

Maybe they "didn't miss the boat", but the specs are underwhelming for Fall of 2012, and this is supposed to be apple's flagship for the next 12-18 months. It is already bested by many phones out there, let alone the ones to come in the following months.

[foghat]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

would you consider the little green robot? why or why not?

No.

I used to be completely anti-apple - didn't really have a particular reason why, just didn't buy apple products.

I will admit though, ever since the iphone 3g and that nifty app called Remote, Mr. Jobs got me hook, line, and sinker. For years prior I was trying to find a reasonably inexpensive way to control the music playing throughout my house via some sort of remote control.

The Remote app did that and did it well. Of course the 3g was tres cool as well and there was not really anything else like it at the time. I changed my music player to itunes and enjoyed controlling music from my deck or anywhere else in the house.

Now with the ecosystem Jobs built (iTunes/icloud,music match, iphone, ipad, apple tv, airport express) with his products, there can be no turning back for me. I'm invested, but more importantly, everything just works.

I honestly don't know if the same sort of eco-system can be duplicated using a non-apple solution. Perhaps, but I doubt it would be as seamless and even it it were, I have no reason to change.

This said, for reasons I won't get into here, I cannot see my self ever moving to an actual apple computer from a pc.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by foghat

You mean buzzwords like 'innovation'?

No, buzzwords like "retina", "lightning", "airxxx" and such.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by afv011

the specs are underwhelming for Fall of 2012

It is already bested by many phones out there

How? to both questions.

Your values are not absolute. I have seen many androiders make that mistake.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by foghat

Now with the ecosystem Jobs built (iTunes/icloud,music match, iphone, ipad, apple tv, airport express) with his products, there can be no turning back for me. I'm invested, but more importantly, everything just works.

I honestly don't know if the same sort of eco-system can be duplicated using a non-apple solution. Perhaps, but I doubt it would be as seamless and even it it were, I have no reason to change.

my theory holds.

[ScotiaBurrell]

androidrs can be funny:

[afv011]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

How? to both questions.

Your values are not absolute. I have seen many androiders make that mistake.

See my previous post listing features. There is nothing revolutionary or even new in this release. To summarize, we have 0.5", a new connector and LTE.

There are phones with better CPUs, bigger screens (in size and pixels), with NFC, with digitizers, ... If you want innovation, look at the features that Sammy added to the S3 and Note2, features that may seem simple (like the StayAwake or the hover to preview items with the digitizer, or making a call by lifting the phone to your ear), but that are extremely useful.

[foghat]

Originally Posted by afv011

Maybe they "didn't miss the boat", but the specs are underwhelming for Fall of 2012, and this is supposed to be apple's flagship for the next 12-18 months. It is already bested by many phones out there, let alone the ones to come in the following months.

You may be right. I honestly don't follow the andriod stuff much so I can't comment on that intelligently. However, to me (call me a fanboy if you want) I really don't care. As I alluded to above, for me it goes beyond just the phone and its specs. It is about the overall ecosystem and how everything just works together. Are there faster andriod phone, sounds like there are. But, reality is, my iphone 4 is plenty fast for what I need.

All this said, the one thing I know everyone talks about is how the screen on the iphone is too small. How the android screens (at leas some of them) are so much bigger.

This is true, but how big a screen do you want on a phone? Now I'm not saying the iphone screen is the perfect size. But this thing still has to fit in my front pocket. Some of the andriod phones I've see are massive. Unless you have a purse or belt clip, I don't see how you comfortably carry some of them around. Or even use them with one hand, for that matter. I suppose like anything you get used to it and adapt.