Update (Installation) gripes

Starko · 05-21-2011, 02:05 PM

1. Every now and then i see a window informing me of a new update. There is a button saying "Download update". That button takes me to a page where i have to click on download button. Why not start it (download) automatically?
If it's to allow me to read changelog? then it would be better to provide a link to it next to the "download update" button in the "update available" dialog window (for those who are interested).
If it's so that i can see donate button, then it would be better to display that button on the same "update available" dialog

Maybe there is an automated (silent in the background) update in the future?

2. When started, installation wizard does "Computing space requirements" which takes about 30 !!! seconds on my AZUS UL30 laptop. Why so long? Is it really needed to know exactly to the byte how much space it will take? Calibre setup take (in my case) 125MB. Just check whether there is 500 MB available on disk. If yes then install, if not go through bit counting.

3. Updating restores Calibre icon on the desktop, which i delete every time.

theducks · 05-21-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Starko

1. Every now and then i see a window informing me of a new update. There is a button saying "Download update". That button takes me to a page where i have to click on download button. Why not start it (download) automatically?
If it's to allow me to read changelog? then it would be better to provide a link to it next to the "download update" button in the "update available" dialog window (for those who are interested).
If it's so that i can see donate button, then it would be better to display that button on the same "update available" dialog

Maybe there is an automated (silent in the background) update in the future?

2. When started, installation wizard does "Computing space requirements" which takes about 30 !!! seconds on my AZUS UL30 laptop. Why so long? Is it really needed to know exactly to the byte how much space it will take? Calibre setup take (in my case) 125MB. Just check whether there is 500 MB available on disk. If yes then install, if not go through bit counting.

3. Updating restores Calibre icon on the desktop, which i delete every time.

1: What OS versions should it download. some of us run multiple OS or 32 bit on a 64 bit machine

2: Tell it to Billy G. It is a Windows thing

. It is a LOT better than it was. The crew figured out how to avoid some of the 'checks'.

3: did you try the Custom install (button)? Adobe (and others)will ALWAYS trash your desktop on updates (and try to instal #$%^& toolbars).
It is one Delete after an update... Live with it

JKenP · 05-21-2011, 02:55 PM

All the features you want are addressed and available in the $79.95 version.

Starko · 05-21-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

1: What OS versions should it download. some of us run multiple OS or 32 bit on a 64 bit machine

It should download the same version that it is itself!
Not that i get much choice now - when i get transferred to the web site, i am presented with the proper but only choice available (x86/32 bits). So this logic is already there - either in Calibre or in the website.

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Originally Posted by theducks

2: Tell it to Billy G. It is a Windows thing

. It is a LOT better than it was. The crew figured out how to avoid some of the 'checks'.

What does billy g has to do with it? It has absolutely nothing to do with the OS. It's just a nerdy unintelligent implementation of the setup program. Probably nothing Calibre developers can do about.

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Originally Posted by theducks

3: did you try the Custom install (button)? Adobe (and others)will ALWAYS trash your desktop on updates (and try to instal #$%^& toolbars).
It is one Delete after an update...

No i did not. I will try it next time and i'll see whether my choice will persist in the subsequent updates. What does Adobe have to do with this? Just because there one well known company with notoriously bad habits, should we all start adopting those habits ourselves and ignoring everyone else having them?

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Originally Posted by theducks

Live with it

why? When i can make difference by pointing out possible improvements

kiwidude · 05-21-2011, 03:28 PM

What you are "pointing out" is already well documented many times on many other threads if you looked through the forum. Kovid has said many times that further work on the windows installer is a low priority, so as theducks says, just live with it. You do indeed have the option in the custom install to not create icons etc, and from what I have read elsewhere this is not currently remembered so you would need to do it each time.

Starko · 05-21-2011, 04:09 PM

i guess i will have to live with deleting the icon, just like you will have to live with people who are new to the forum "pointing out".

Manichean · 05-21-2011, 05:58 PM

There's another option, actually: Do the work on the installer yourself. I'm sure many people would be grateful, myself included.

Starko · 05-22-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Manichean

There's another option, actually: Do the work on the installer yourself. I'm sure many people would be grateful, myself included.

Let's just say many people would be grateful, including you, if instead of working on installer i kept doing what i do best.
But there is yet another option: If you think it's so easy you do work on installer and we all will rejoice.

Manichean · 05-22-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Starko

If you think it's so easy you do work on installer and we all will rejoice.

Did I say it was easy?

bwaldron · 05-22-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Starko

i guess i will have to live with deleting the icon

No, you can use the advanced install option to not add a desktop icon.

Starko · 05-23-2011, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

No, you can use the advanced install option to not add a desktop icon.

Next time i update i will see what takes less effort, using advanced install option or deleting it. And then during the second next update i will see whether that choice will persist (probably not).

itimpi · 05-23-2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Starko

And then during the second next update i will see whether that choice will persist (probably not).

No install options are remembered between updates.

Starko · 05-29-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

Live with it

I guess i won't have to.

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I added code to remember all the ... user controlled settings.

Way to go Kovid! Thanks

05-21-2011, 02:05 PM	#1
Starko Zealot Posts: 123 Karma: 998177 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Update (Installation) gripes 1. Every now and then i see a window informing me of a new update. There is a button saying "Download update". That button takes me to a page where i have to click on download button. Why not start it (download) automatically? If it's to allow me to read changelog? then it would be better to provide a link to it next to the "download update" button in the "update available" dialog window (for those who are interested). If it's so that i can see donate button, then it would be better to display that button on the same "update available" dialog Maybe there is an automated (silent in the background) update in the future? 2. When started, installation wizard does "Computing space requirements" which takes about 30 !!! seconds on my AZUS UL30 laptop. Why so long? Is it really needed to know exactly to the byte how much space it will take? Calibre setup take (in my case) 125MB. Just check whether there is 500 MB available on disk. If yes then install, if not go through bit counting. 3. Updating restores Calibre icon on the desktop, which i delete every time.

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05-21-2011, 02:55 PM	#3
JKenP Connoisseur Posts: 91 Karma: 504384 Join Date: May 2011 Location: NW Indiana Device: Sony Kobo iPhone Kindle 8 HD	All the features you want are addressed and available in the $79.95 version.

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kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	What you are "pointing out" is already well documented many times on many other threads if you looked through the forum. Kovid has said many times that further work on the windows installer is a low priority, so as theducks says, just live with it. You do indeed have the option in the custom install to not create icons etc, and from what I have read elsewhere this is not currently remembered so you would need to do it each time.

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05-21-2011, 05:58 PM	#7
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