PRS-505 for $279 - too much? - Page 3

HarryT · 04-30-2010, 08:01 AM

No, Wacom touch screens are not capacitive, and my knowledge (it's not an "assumption") is based on knowing "that's how Wacom touch screens work". But you don't have to take my word for it - you'll find plenty of information about it elsewhere.

See, for example, here.

Thrasher · 04-30-2010, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBRags

For today only, woot.com has refurbished PRS600 for $199.

Too bad they don't ship to Canada. But after playing with a 600 in the store yesterday, I don't really want it anyway (bad reflection).

kartu · 05-03-2010, 03:06 AM

After digging&asking around, I've found the following pictures, UPDATE Onyx unleashed, the wacom screen is indeed behind, as Harry has stated:

Spoiler:

It has sophysticated sensor system, emitting EM waves, that feed (!) stylus, that responds with god knows what kind of positioning information.

Advantages of this technology:

Does not degrade the screen

Disadvantages:

Works only with special stylus, fingers won't work
Longevity

Not sure about battery life.
Here are photos of iRex DR800SG (also has mentioned kind of touchscreen) vs many readers:

iRex vs 300

Spoiler:

iRex vs Kindle (?)

Spoiler:

iRex vs 900

Spoiler:

iRex vs 505

Spoiler:

iRex vs Nook

Spoiler:

DoctorOhh · 05-03-2010, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartu

After digging&asking around, I've found the following pictures, Nook unleashed, the wacom screen is indeed behind, as Harry has stated:

It has sophisticated sensor system, emitting EM waves, that feed (!) stylus, that responds with god knows what kind of positioning information.

Advantages of this technology:

Does not degrade the screen

HarryT was preaching the virtues of the BeBook Neo or Onyx. So the iRex DR800SG and the Nook also uses this tech for touch screen. Nice to know, thanks HarryT and kartu for clarifying this.

kartu · 05-03-2010, 06:50 AM

dwanthny
I am sorry for the confusion, on the first screen it's actually Onyx, Nook does not have wacom's touchscreen.

DoctorOhh · 05-03-2010, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartu

dwanthny
I am sorry for the confusion, on the first screen it's actually Onyx, Nook does not have wacom's touchscreen.

Not a problem, I'm easily confused. Just ask my wife.

omatix · 05-05-2010, 11:37 PM

Considering that you can find the PRS-300 for $130 this week (TigerDirect has the lowest price, I believe), $279 really sounds like a lot of money for an inch of extra screen space. But, as was stated, there's a lot of personal preference that goes into this.

Teddman · 05-06-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by omatix

$279 really sounds like a lot of money for an inch of extra screen space.

Don't confuse the diagonal measurement for the actual screen space... In terms of screen area, it's 12 inches on the 300 vs. 17.25 inches on the 505.

You're getting almost 50% more screen real estate on the 505 for the extra money.

omatix · 05-06-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddman

Don't confuse the diagonal measurement for the actual screen space... In terms of screen area, it's 12 inches on the 300 vs. 17.25 inches on the 505.

You're getting almost 50% more screen real estate on the 505 for the extra money.

Good point.

Wetdogeared · 05-07-2010, 12:34 PM

Price is now CA$249.95 at futureshop.ca.
Sale Ends:May 20, 2010
Another reminder that it ships only within Canada.

EatingPie · 05-07-2010, 06:53 PM

I chose a 505 over the 300, paying just over $300 shipped (new item from poster previously in this thread). But I'm in the US and could not take advantage of futureshop's promo.

Here is my breakdown.

PRS-505

+ Screen Real Estate
+ Ergonomics
+ Similarity to PRS-500 which I'm replacing
+ Design of device is visually striking (I'm a sucker for design/engineering)

- Price

PRS-300
+ Speed (noticeably faster than 505)
+ Portability
+ Price (!!!)

- Ergonomics - Harder to hold with 1 hand and turn pages compared to 505.
- Screen size
- Klunky looking, with lots of wasted frame space on the bottom.

To me, the screens are indistinguishable in terms of clarity. And that is the most important factor in a reader: ease of readability (do you hear me PRS-600?!?).

While I chose the PRS-505, had the PRS-300's price been as low as it is now, I would have bought that instead. It's now half the price you can get a new PRS-505 for, and half the price I payed. I'm not unhappy, as I like the PRS-505, but the price and slight speed bump are real winners.

-Pie

kartu · 05-08-2010, 02:59 AM

PRS-505's pros vs 300 that you forgot to mention, are:

SD/MS slots
image viewer
music player

HarryT · 05-08-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwanthny

HarryT was preaching the virtues of the BeBook Neo or Onyx. So the iRex DR800SG and the Nook also uses this tech for touch screen. Nice to know, thanks HarryT and kartu for clarifying this.

That's correct; iRex use Wacom touch screens, too. The styluses of iRex and Neo/Onyx machines work fine on each other.

bigpizza · 05-12-2010, 01:23 PM

Just ordered a brand new red 505 from futureshop.ca.

It's the last one. Now already sold out.

HistoryWes · 05-12-2010, 02:08 PM

I love my 505 and would try to get another one if mine died. But I don't know about $279. There was just someone selling one on this forum with accessories for $250. And it's been pointed out that a 300 is the same resolution with a slightly smaller screen and they are selling on Amazon for under $140 and at Walmart for $149.

04-30-2010, 08:01 AM	#31
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, Wacom touch screens are not capacitive, and my knowledge (it's not an "assumption") is based on knowing "that's how Wacom touch screens work". But you don't have to take my word for it - you'll find plenty of information about it elsewhere. See, for example, here. Last edited by HarryT; 04-30-2010 at 08:05 AM. Reason: Added link.

05-03-2010, 03:06 AM	#33
kartu PRS+ author Posts: 1,637 Karma: 2446233 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-300, 505, 600, 650, 950	After digging&asking around, I've found the following pictures, UPDATE Onyx unleashed, the wacom screen is indeed behind, as Harry has stated: Spoiler: It has sophysticated sensor system, emitting EM waves, that feed (!) stylus, that responds with god knows what kind of positioning information. Advantages of this technology: Does not degrade the screen Disadvantages: Works only with special stylus, fingers won't work Longevity Not sure about battery life. Here are photos of iRex DR800SG (also has mentioned kind of touchscreen) vs many readers: iRex vs 300 Spoiler: iRex vs Kindle (?) Spoiler: iRex vs 900 Spoiler: iRex vs 505 Spoiler: iRex vs Nook Spoiler: Last edited by kartu; 05-03-2010 at 06:49 AM.

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05-03-2010, 06:50 AM	#35
kartu PRS+ author Posts: 1,637 Karma: 2446233 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-300, 505, 600, 650, 950	dwanthny I am sorry for the confusion, on the first screen it's actually Onyx, Nook does not have wacom's touchscreen.

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omatix Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: PRS-300	Considering that you can find the PRS-300 for $130 this week (TigerDirect has the lowest price, I believe), $279 really sounds like a lot of money for an inch of extra screen space. But, as was stated, there's a lot of personal preference that goes into this.

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Wetdogeared Storm Surge'n Posts: 5,776 Karma: 8213195 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lobster Capital Device: S0ny PRS-300/350/505/700/T1	Price is now CA$249.95 at futureshop.ca. Sale Ends:May 20, 2010 Another reminder that it ships only within Canada.

05-07-2010, 06:53 PM	#41
EatingPie Blueberry! Posts: 888 Karma: 133343 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500 (RIP); PRS-600 (Good Riddance); PRS-505; PRS-650; PRS-350	I chose a 505 over the 300, paying just over $300 shipped (new item from poster previously in this thread). But I'm in the US and could not take advantage of futureshop's promo. Here is my breakdown. PRS-505 + Screen Real Estate + Ergonomics + Similarity to PRS-500 which I'm replacing + Design of device is visually striking (I'm a sucker for design/engineering) - Price PRS-300 + Speed (noticeably faster than 505) + Portability + Price (!!!) - Ergonomics - Harder to hold with 1 hand and turn pages compared to 505. - Screen size - Klunky looking, with lots of wasted frame space on the bottom. To me, the screens are indistinguishable in terms of clarity. And that is the most important factor in a reader: ease of readability (do you hear me PRS-600?!?). While I chose the PRS-505, had the PRS-300's price been as low as it is now, I would have bought that instead. It's now half the price you can get a new PRS-505 for, and half the price I payed. I'm not unhappy, as I like the PRS-505, but the price and slight speed bump are real winners. -Pie

05-08-2010, 02:59 AM	#42
kartu PRS+ author Posts: 1,637 Karma: 2446233 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-300, 505, 600, 650, 950	PRS-505's pros vs 300 that you forgot to mention, are: SD/MS slots image viewer music player

05-12-2010, 01:23 PM	#44
bigpizza Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 37506 Join Date: May 2010 Device: prs-505, prs-T1	Just ordered a brand new red 505 from futureshop.ca. It's the last one. Now already sold out.

05-12-2010, 02:08 PM	#45
HistoryWes Teacher/Novelist Posts: 632 Karma: 2274466 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nevada Device: Nook STR, iPad	I love my 505 and would try to get another one if mine died. But I don't know about $279. There was just someone selling one on this forum with accessories for $250. And it's been pointed out that a 300 is the same resolution with a slightly smaller screen and they are selling on Amazon for under $140 and at Walmart for $149.