What code should go into every chapter?

GraciousMe · 05-16-2012, 12:21 PM

Hello

I wonder if there is an obligatory code that should be in every single chapter of an epub book, or if it´s enough to have it in the first chapter?

I guess this

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta content="My Title" name="Title" />
<meta content="My Name" name="Author" />
<link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<title>Book</title>

</head>

is obligatory (?).

Anything more?

theducks · 05-16-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraciousMe

Hello

I wonder if there is an obligatory code that should be in every single chapter of an epub book, or if it´s enough to have it in the first chapter?

I guess this

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta content="My Title" name="Title" />
<meta content="My Name" name="Author" />
<link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<title>Book</title>

</head>

is obligatory (?).

Anything more?

The orange is optional (technically). Of Coarse, your style sheet will have no effect

The Stuff between <body> tags is also not required

Go read basis HTML rules. Validate your code using one of the Validation services/tools at w3.org

Why are you even sweating this small stuff ?

GraciousMe · 05-16-2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

The orange is optional (technically). Of Coarse, your style sheet will have no effect

The Stuff between <body> tags is also not required

I know basic HTML. CSS and epub are new to me.

Your answer only made me more confused.

Doitsu · 05-16-2012, 04:48 PM

At a bare minimum, your html file should look like this:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
  <title></title>
  <link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>

<body>
  <h3>Chapter 1</h3>

  <p>It was a dark and stormy night...</p>
</body>
</html>

You can add as many meta tags as you like, but since they'll be ignored it'd be rather pointless. (Metadata only needs to be entered once via Edit > Meta Editor.)

The <title></title> tags are required, but since they are usually ignored by the ePub reader software, you can leave them empty.

However, you should definitely keep the stylesheet reference. Also don't forget to enclose the chapter header in header tags (h1, h2, h3 ...). Otherwise you won't be able to automatically generate the toc.

GraciousMe · 05-16-2012, 07:19 PM

That sparse, Doitsu?

Lovely. Room to breathe...

Jellby · 05-17-2012, 04:01 AM

The DOCTYPE directive is optional, anyway, you can safely remove it (and you must if there is SVG in the file).

GraciousMe · 05-17-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

At a bare minimum, your html file should look like this:

And this code goes into every chapter? (I have this idea that the first chapter is somehow special...)

Jellby, what is SVG?

DiapDealer · 05-17-2012, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraciousMe

And this code goes into every chapter? (I have this idea that the first chapter is somehow special...)

This code goes into every (x)html file that you have included in your epub. "Chapter" is a bit ambiguous and not always relevant. And no... there's nothing inherently special about the "first" html file in your epub.

Toxaris · 05-17-2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

The DOCTYPE directive is optional, anyway, you can safely remove it (and you must if there is SVG in the file).

?? I never remove the DOCTYPE when I use SVG. Neither as reference or as inline. It still works and validates fine.

Jellby · 05-18-2012, 04:59 AM

Does it? When I started validating (I don't remember if it was epubcheck or flightcrew, or both) I got an error with inline SVG and DTD and, as far as I know, the XHTML 1.1 doctype does not allow inline SVG

Have a look here: http://www.daisy.org/epub/issues/cla...e-allowed-epub particularly at message #49

My understanding now is that DOCTYPE is not necessary, but if it's used it must be the right one for the content, and HTML+SVG is not valid in the XHTML 1.1 DOCTYPE. So, if you are going to use them, either you must include a custom DOCTYPE, or just remove the line, as it's not needed anyway.

Jellby · 05-18-2012, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraciousMe

Jellby, what is SVG?

SVG=Scalable Vector Graphics

It's a graphics programming language, that allows to create resolution-independent graphics.

Toxaris · 05-18-2012, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

Does it? When I started validating (I don't remember if it was epubcheck or flightcrew, or both) I got an error with inline SVG and DTD and, as far as I know, the XHTML 1.1 doctype does not allow inline SVG

Have a look here: http://www.daisy.org/epub/issues/cla...e-allowed-epub particularly at message #49

My understanding now is that DOCTYPE is not necessary, but if it's used it must be the right one for the content, and HTML+SVG is not valid in the XHTML 1.1 DOCTYPE. So, if you are going to use them, either you must include a custom DOCTYPE, or just remove the line, as it's not needed anyway.

Really, it does. It perhaps depends on the usage of SVG though. Perhaps if you use certain SVG commands it is not supported.
It probably depends on how you use the SVG. If you embed it, there is an SVG file added. In the SVG file there is no DOCTYPE. However, if I take the content of the SVG file (only the <svg> tags and everything in between), I can past it in a normal XHTML file with DOCTYPE without an issue. I must put the <svg> in <div> tags of course, but that is normal.

I usually don't do very complex things in SVG, which might be the reason why it works.

GraciousMe · 05-18-2012, 08:47 AM

Thanks.

And what about this, should it go into the file?

<body xml:lang="SV" xmlns:xml="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace">

Or is language only something for the CSS?

JSWolf · 05-26-2012, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

At a bare minimum, your html file should look like this:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
  <title></title>
  <link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>

<body>
  <h3>Chapter 1</h3>

  <p>It was a dark and stormy night...</p>
</body>
</html>

You can add as many meta tags as you like, but since they'll be ignored it'd be rather pointless. (Metadata only needs to be entered once via Edit > Meta Editor.)

The <title></title> tags are required, but since they are usually ignored by the ePub reader software, you can leave them empty.

However, you should definitely keep the stylesheet reference. Also don't forget to enclose the chapter header in header tags (h1, h2, h3 ...). Otherwise you won't be able to automatically generate the toc.

I'll have to disagree using <h3> for chapter titles. I'd go with <h2>.

05-16-2012, 12:21 PM	#1
GraciousMe Zealot Posts: 101 Karma: 202774 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	What code should go into every chapter? Hello I wonder if there is an obligatory code that should be in every single chapter of an epub book, or if it´s enough to have it in the first chapter? I guess this <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta content="My Title" name="Title" /> <meta content="My Name" name="Author" /> <link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> <title>Book</title> </head> is obligatory (?). Anything more?

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05-16-2012, 04:48 PM	#4
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,584 Karma: 22735033 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	At a bare minimum, your html file should look like this: Code: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <title></title> <link href="../Styles/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> </head> <body> <h3>Chapter 1</h3> <p>It was a dark and stormy night...</p> </body> </html> You can add as many meta tags as you like, but since they'll be ignored it'd be rather pointless. (Metadata only needs to be entered once via Edit > Meta Editor.) The <title></title> tags are required, but since they are usually ignored by the ePub reader software, you can leave them empty. However, you should definitely keep the stylesheet reference. Also don't forget to enclose the chapter header in header tags (h1, h2, h3 ...). Otherwise you won't be able to automatically generate the toc. Last edited by Doitsu; 05-16-2012 at 04:55 PM.

05-16-2012, 07:19 PM	#5
GraciousMe Zealot Posts: 101 Karma: 202774 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	That sparse, Doitsu? Lovely. Room to breathe...

05-17-2012, 04:01 AM	#6
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,516 Karma: 18512745 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	The DOCTYPE directive is optional, anyway, you can safely remove it (and you must if there is SVG in the file).

05-18-2012, 04:59 AM	#10
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,516 Karma: 18512745 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	Does it? When I started validating (I don't remember if it was epubcheck or flightcrew, or both) I got an error with inline SVG and DTD and, as far as I know, the XHTML 1.1 doctype does not allow inline SVG Have a look here: http://www.daisy.org/epub/issues/cla...e-allowed-epub particularly at message #49 My understanding now is that DOCTYPE is not necessary, but if it's used it must be the right one for the content, and HTML+SVG is not valid in the XHTML 1.1 DOCTYPE. So, if you are going to use them, either you must include a custom DOCTYPE, or just remove the line, as it's not needed anyway.

05-18-2012, 08:47 AM	#13
GraciousMe Zealot Posts: 101 Karma: 202774 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	Thanks. And what about this, should it go into the file? <body xml:lang="SV" xmlns:xml="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace"> Or is language only something for the CSS?

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