Gen3 price in Europe

flowolf · 08-29-2007, 07:01 AM

Hi,
I'd like to know what the final price in Europe will be. I hope that they wont make some 1:1 change with USD (350$ = 350€

).

tribble · 08-29-2007, 07:04 AM

It will probably be just that. Thats what VAT does to you

HarryT · 08-29-2007, 07:24 AM

That would work out about right - VAT is 19.6% in France, so that's what everybody in the EU will be charged.

flowolf · 08-29-2007, 07:55 AM

350USD = 257.0222€.
257.0222€ + 19% = 305.856418€.
350€ - 305.856418€ = 44.143582€.
44.143582€ = ~60,1175USD.

So explaining 350USD to 350€ because of VAT is just non-sense.

tribble · 08-29-2007, 08:03 AM

An extended warranty period of 2 instead of 1 year for europe will do the rest. Not to mention some more economical imbalances between european and us markets.

So even if your calculation is correct, my guess is 360$ = 350€

HarryT · 08-29-2007, 08:14 AM

Things are almost always more expensive in Europe than in the US. Just a fact of life that one gets used to.

Kilarney · 08-29-2007, 08:15 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the VAT added at levels other than retail? (ie: when the wholesaler sends to to the retailer, etc.)

zdevil · 08-29-2007, 08:17 AM

Originally I was planning to buy a Cybook Gen3, but then I can't wait for that long and finally I got a Hanlin V3. V3 is really worth buying besides Gen3. The two beasts have almost the same hardware specs and V3 is actually cheaper (USD 324, excluding express delivery).

JSWolf · 08-29-2007, 08:38 AM

What DRM laden ebook formats does the V3 support?

HarryT · 08-29-2007, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilarney

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the VAT added at levels other than retail? (ie: when the wholesaler sends to to the retailer, etc.)

VAT is added at every level, but a business can reclaim the VAT on things it buys for the business.

Eg, suppose VAT is 20% and you spend £1000 on "widgets" for your business, your supplier would charge you £1200, but you could reclaim the £200 in VAT.

Now, if you resold those widget for £2000, you would have to charge the person you sold them to £2400, and you'd pay the £400 VAT to the government.

That's why it's called a value added tax, because you only pay tax on the value that you "add" to the product - the different between the price you pay for it and the price you sell it for.

zdevil · 08-29-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What DRM laden ebook formats does the V3 support?

I don't know yet. In the Manual there are instructions for installing a "copyright SIM card" right next to the battery compartment. But I am no fan of DRM. I simply use the device to read RSS news, web pages I saved, journal papers in PDF formats, free ebooks on the web, plus my own scanned materials (not to distribute of course).

NatCh · 08-29-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Things are almost always more expensive in Europe than in the US. Just a fact of life that one gets used to.

But does that apply when the product is made in Europe in the first place?

Or, are we not talking about the Gen3 Cybook ...?

I think I've confused myself.

HarryT · 08-29-2007, 11:25 AM

I know it's crazy, but yes, it very often does

.

Hadrien · 08-29-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

But does that apply when the product is made in Europe in the first place?

Or, are we not talking about the Gen3 Cybook ...?

I think I've confused myself.

The factory is in China, not France.

NatCh · 08-29-2007, 12:06 PM

Ah. I thought that since Bookeen is a European company it might make a difference.

08-29-2007, 07:01 AM	#1
flowolf Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Nokia 6600	Gen3 price in Europe Hi, I'd like to know what the final price in Europe will be. I hope that they wont make some 1:1 change with USD (350$ = 350€ ).

08-29-2007, 08:17 AM	#8
zdevil Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 19 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, Hanlin V3	Originally I was planning to buy a Cybook Gen3, but then I can't wait for that long and finally I got a Hanlin V3. V3 is really worth buying besides Gen3. The two beasts have almost the same hardware specs and V3 is actually cheaper (USD 324, excluding express delivery). Last edited by zdevil; 08-29-2007 at 09:01 AM.

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08-29-2007, 07:04 AM	#2
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	It will probably be just that. Thats what VAT does to you

08-29-2007, 07:24 AM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That would work out about right - VAT is 19.6% in France, so that's what everybody in the EU will be charged.

08-29-2007, 07:55 AM	#4
flowolf Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Nokia 6600	350USD = 257.0222€. 257.0222€ + 19% = 305.856418€. 350€ - 305.856418€ = 44.143582€. 44.143582€ = ~60,1175USD. So explaining 350USD to 350€ because of VAT is just non-sense.

08-29-2007, 08:03 AM	#5
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	An extended warranty period of 2 instead of 1 year for europe will do the rest. Not to mention some more economical imbalances between european and us markets. So even if your calculation is correct, my guess is 360$ = 350€

08-29-2007, 08:14 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Things are almost always more expensive in Europe than in the US. Just a fact of life that one gets used to.

08-29-2007, 08:15 AM	#7
Kilarney Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Sony Reader PRS-500	Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the VAT added at levels other than retail? (ie: when the wholesaler sends to to the retailer, etc.)

08-29-2007, 08:38 AM	#9
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08-29-2007, 11:25 AM	#13
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