[Metadata Source Plugin] Goodreads - Page 21

davidfor · 10-09-2016, 07:57 PM

@Samurai: The metadata download process tries to merge the results from multiple sites. Then it displays them in the list in the order of best match. I assume the bulk download takes the first of the matches. That makes it hard to guarantee any any particular source will be the selected one.

As you want the covers from other sites, the only think I can think of is to change the options for each of those sites. For each metadata source, you can set which metadata values to take. If you deselect all the values for all sources other than Goodreads, it will probably do what you want. I haven't tried this, so I'm not completely sure it will work.

Samurai · 10-10-2016, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfor

@Samurai: The metadata download process tries to merge the results from multiple sites. Then it displays them in the list in the order of best match. I assume the bulk download takes the first of the matches. That makes it hard to guarantee any any particular source will be the selected one.

As you want the covers from other sites, the only think I can think of is to change the options for each of those sites. For each metadata source, you can set which metadata values to take. If you deselect all the values for all sources other than Goodreads, it will probably do what you want. I haven't tried this, so I'm not completely sure it will work.

Ah, it'd be great if that could work. You can't change the sources from each different page individually on each. You can check/uncheck the metadata for all of the sources, unless there's another way I don't know.

davidfor · 10-10-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Ah, it'd be great if that could work. You can't change the sources from each different page individually on each. You can check/uncheck the metadata for all of the sources, unless there's another way I don't know.

If you select the source in the list, and press the "Configure selected source" button under the list, options for the source will be displayed. This has options to choose the metadata fields to use for that source.

Samurai · 10-13-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

If you select the source in the list, and press the "Configure selected source" button under the list, options for the source will be displayed. This has options to choose the metadata fields to use for that source.

Ah, you are RIGHT. Thanks a lot. I don't know why but I always went to the option menu from the Edit Metadata window and not from the Preference to see the "Configure selected source".
Now I can pull metadata only form Goodreads and Covers from everywhere.

davidfor · 01-03-2017, 11:38 PM

I have just arranged for the release of a new version of the plugin. This has been is to fix an issue with ratings when it was not an integer. It is basically the beta from a few months ago.

There should be an update announced in calibre in the next hour or so.

BookJunkieLI · 03-09-2017, 03:35 PM

In Goodreads there are two fields, Setting and Literary Awards, that I would love to be able to download with the metadata, either into custom tag columns or even into the regular tags. Is this already possible or could it be made possible?

Tijntje · 04-26-2017, 08:22 AM

Is it possible to not let the Goodreads plugin overwrite the ISBN number?
currently I scrape my Dutch books with the Bol.com plugin and do a second scrape of Goodreads to import the tags, Rating, and Series information.
The problem is that Goodreads plugin often will retrieve a different ISBN number for that specific book and overwrite the value I originally got from Bol.com.

So if there would be an option to not download the ISBN and only add the Goodreads ID that would make my life so much easier.

Krazykiwi · 04-28-2017, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijntje

Is it possible to not let the Goodreads plugin overwrite the ISBN number?
currently I scrape my Dutch books with the Bol.com plugin and do a second scrape of Goodreads to import the tags, Rating, and Series information.
The problem is that Goodreads plugin often will retrieve a different ISBN number for that specific book and overwrite the value I originally got from Bol.com.

There are two GR plugins, one is the GR metadata download (this one) and it's not that smart. The other is the GR Sync one, and it's a bit brainier, and does have this option, you can tell it to never replace the ISBN or to only add one if none already exists.

Even if you don't actually use GR for anything else, I recommend in your case, grab the GR Sync one, because you can probably use it to fix your issue.

The most likely thing is that the specific edition for that ISBN does not exist on GR. So it's pulling the default edition from a search by title. If this is the problem, you probably don't want to actually pull GR metadata for that book. (Personally, I'd just go add the missing edition to GR, but you may not want the work. You can ask for it to be added in the librarian group though.)

You can specify a GR ID with the GR Sync plugin. Just select the book, press G, if it finds the ISBN it'll say "Goodreads matches for ISBN" at the top, and you can hit enter and it'll be the right edition. If it can't find the ISBN, it'll instead say "Goodreads matches for Title/Author". Then you can choose "Switch Edition" at the bottom, to pick another, or "Search Goodreads" to go find the right edition on the site, and then copy the URL (or drag and drop from your browser) right back into the plugin dialog. Now when you pull metadata from GR, it'll be the exact edition you specified.

I use it this way, I run through the books with the G key (you can multiselect), and only then pull metadata when I've got a GR ID assigned that I picked myself.

Just to be completionist, it may be pulling the right one from an ISBN search, but GR and many booksellers prefer to display the ISBN10, and Calibre prefers the ISBN13 - they are derived from each other. The ISBN10 is the middle 9 numbers from the 13, and a checksum at the end, and the ISBN13 is 978-first 9 digits of ISBN10, and another checksum (calculated a different way). E.G.
3499506777 = 9783499506772

It's pretty easy to eyeball once you get the hang of it, but if the correct ISBN editions are actually on GR, it might be simply that it's switching your ISBN10 for the ISBN13, without you realising it.

Tijntje · 05-01-2017, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazykiwi

There are two GR plugins, one is the GR metadata download (this one) and it's not that smart. The other is the GR Sync one, and it's a bit brainier, and does have this option, you can tell it to never replace the ISBN or to only add one if none already exists.

Even if you don't actually use GR for anything else, I recommend in your case, grab the GR Sync one, because you can probably use it to fix your issue.

The most likely thing is that the specific edition for that ISBN does not exist on GR. So it's pulling the default edition from a search by title. If this is the problem, you probably don't want to actually pull GR metadata for that book. (Personally, I'd just go add the missing edition to GR, but you may not want the work. You can ask for it to be added in the librarian group though.)

You can specify a GR ID with the GR Sync plugin. Just select the book, press G, if it finds the ISBN it'll say "Goodreads matches for ISBN" at the top, and you can hit enter and it'll be the right edition. If it can't find the ISBN, it'll instead say "Goodreads matches for Title/Author". Then you can choose "Switch Edition" at the bottom, to pick another, or "Search Goodreads" to go find the right edition on the site, and then copy the URL (or drag and drop from your browser) right back into the plugin dialog. Now when you pull metadata from GR, it'll be the exact edition you specified.

I use it this way, I run through the books with the G key (you can multiselect), and only then pull metadata when I've got a GR ID assigned that I picked myself.

Just to be completionist, it may be pulling the right one from an ISBN search, but GR and many booksellers prefer to display the ISBN10, and Calibre prefers the ISBN13 - they are derived from each other. The ISBN10 is the middle 9 numbers from the 13, and a checksum at the end, and the ISBN13 is 978-first 9 digits of ISBN10, and another checksum (calculated a different way). E.G.
3499506777 = 9783499506772

It's pretty easy to eyeball once you get the hang of it, but if the correct ISBN editions are actually on GR, it might be simply that it's switching your ISBN10 for the ISBN13, without you realising it.

Thank you for this

, I will go and check it out.
It is pulling the actual wrong ISBN number like you described in the first section. If I run the Bol.com after getting the goodreads "wrong" ISBN I get the English title back most of the time.
In the past I've added a ton of books to GoodRead but I do not always want the additional work when I'm adding books to my library.

anthony.burton4 · 05-19-2017, 06:11 AM

I'm trying to update the metadata on a bunch of books.

I've used the Goodreads plugin, to link the books to Goodreads, so they all know have a Goodreads ID in the ID's field. I like this step because the plugin gives me a list of all books from the search and I'm able to select the specific one.

I've configured Calibre's metadata update to only use Goodreads, yet when I run it, it fails to find ANY of these books, so clearly not using the Goodreads ID!

Can anyone explain this behaviour and suggest a fix/workaround?

Thanks

davidfor · 05-19-2017, 08:24 AM

This appears to be working here. We probably need some examples that are failing, or the log from the metadata download to see what is happening.

anthony.burton4 · 05-23-2017, 01:06 PM

Proving difficult to obtain a log

Running calibre-debug.exe --gui-debug calibre123.log DOES start up calibre. But when I exit calibre, I get the error message "No such file or directory: u'calibre123.log'

I've tried this with several options now - can't get it to save a log file.

kovidgoyal · 05-23-2017, 01:44 PM

You start calibre in debug mode by right clicking the preference button and choose restart in debug mode

anthony.burton4 · 05-23-2017, 02:07 PM

OK - this is the log

Code:

calibre Debug log
calibre 2.85.1 [64bit]  embedded-python: True is64bit: True
Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 Windows ('64bit', 'WindowsPE')
('Windows', '7', '6.1.7601')
Python 2.7.9
Windows: ('7', '6.1.7601', 'SP1', 'Multiprocessor Free')
Successfully initialized third party plugins: Goodreads (1, 1, 12) && Open With (1, 5, 10) && Count Pages (1, 7, 0) && Goodreads Sync (1, 10, 1) && FictionDB (1, 0, 10) && Extract ISBN (1, 4, 4) && Author Book Count (2, 1, 5) && KindleUnpack - The Plugin (0, 81, 4) && Favourites Menu (1, 0, 4) && Modify ePub (1, 3, 13) && Kindle Collections (1, 7, 17) && Quality Check (1, 9, 11)
devicePixelRatio: 1.0
logicalDpi: 96.0 x 96.0
physicalDpi: 72.035450517 x 72.0567375887
Starting up...
DEBUG:    0.0 HttpHelper::__init__: proxy=None
Started up in 5.37 seconds with 1728 books
Metadata sources cache was recently updated not updating again
Job: 1 Download metadata for one book finished
Starting job: Download metadata for one book 
	Download complete, with 1 failures

anthony.burton4 · 05-23-2017, 02:10 PM

Note - I am not running any antivirus or firewall.

Metadata update does work from other sources - e.g. Google

In the above example, I asked it to find one book:

Title:"You & Me & the Devil Makes Three- Esquire's Fiction for Men"
Author:"Aaron Gwyn; Jess Walter; Luis Alberto Urrea"
IDs:"goodreads:14739608"

01-03-2017, 11:38 PM	#305
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,907 Karma: 47303748 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	Update to version 1.12 I have just arranged for the release of a new version of the plugin. This has been is to fix an issue with ratings when it was not an integer. It is basically the beta from a few months ago. There should be an update announced in calibre in the next hour or so.

03-09-2017, 03:35 PM	#306
BookJunkieLI Evangelist Posts: 435 Karma: 572984 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Long Island Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle 4, Nook Gl4, Nook STR, REB 1100, Ebookwise 1500,	In Goodreads there are two fields, Setting and Literary Awards, that I would love to be able to download with the metadata, either into custom tag columns or even into the regular tags. Is this already possible or could it be made possible? Attached Thumbnails

05-19-2017, 06:11 AM	#310
anthony.burton4 Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: iPhone	Metadata update from Goodreads I'm trying to update the metadata on a bunch of books. I've used the Goodreads plugin, to link the books to Goodreads, so they all know have a Goodreads ID in the ID's field. I like this step because the plugin gives me a list of all books from the search and I'm able to select the specific one. I've configured Calibre's metadata update to only use Goodreads, yet when I run it, it fails to find ANY of these books, so clearly not using the Goodreads ID! Can anyone explain this behaviour and suggest a fix/workaround? Thanks

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10-09-2016, 07:57 PM	#301
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,907 Karma: 47303748 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	@Samurai: The metadata download process tries to merge the results from multiple sites. Then it displays them in the list in the order of best match. I assume the bulk download takes the first of the matches. That makes it hard to guarantee any any particular source will be the selected one. As you want the covers from other sites, the only think I can think of is to change the options for each of those sites. For each metadata source, you can set which metadata values to take. If you deselect all the values for all sources other than Goodreads, it will probably do what you want. I haven't tried this, so I'm not completely sure it will work.

04-26-2017, 08:22 AM	#307
Tijntje Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle 3G	Is it possible to not let the Goodreads plugin overwrite the ISBN number? currently I scrape my Dutch books with the Bol.com plugin and do a second scrape of Goodreads to import the tags, Rating, and Series information. The problem is that Goodreads plugin often will retrieve a different ISBN number for that specific book and overwrite the value I originally got from Bol.com. So if there would be an option to not download the ISBN and only add the Goodreads ID that would make my life so much easier.

05-19-2017, 08:24 AM	#311
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,907 Karma: 47303748 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	This appears to be working here. We probably need some examples that are failing, or the log from the metadata download to see what is happening.

05-23-2017, 01:06 PM	#312
anthony.burton4 Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: iPhone	Proving difficult to obtain a log Running calibre-debug.exe --gui-debug calibre123.log DOES start up calibre. But when I exit calibre, I get the error message "No such file or directory: u'calibre123.log' I've tried this with several options now - can't get it to save a log file.

05-23-2017, 01:44 PM	#313
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,851 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You start calibre in debug mode by right clicking the preference button and choose restart in debug mode

05-23-2017, 02:10 PM	#315
anthony.burton4 Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: iPhone	Note - I am not running any antivirus or firewall. Metadata update does work from other sources - e.g. Google In the above example, I asked it to find one book: Title:"You & Me & the Devil Makes Three- Esquire's Fiction for Men" Author:"Aaron Gwyn; Jess Walter; Luis Alberto Urrea" IDs:"goodreads:14739608"

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