Calibre is renaming my styles

AThirstyMind · 02-24-2014, 09:43 AM

Just recently Calibre started renaming my styles... specifically Flush renaming it to MsoNormal Then renaming MsoNormal to MsoNormal1. I don't think this is causing problems, but I want to know why it's happening. My html has the correct style in the style sheet and the places where these styles occur are correct. It's when I put the HTML into Calibre that the problem happens. I don't normally use the Calibre editor to fix files, but Sigil. If it were just one small style and not MsoNormal I wouldn't worry, I'd just change it in the Calibre or Sigil style sheet.

eschwartz · 02-24-2014, 08:35 PM

calibre should not rename your styles unless you are performing a conversion. If you convert the book, then calibre will make lots of changes that you may not like, and will also recreate the styles. But the elements in the HTML part of the book should be changed as well, to match.

DiapDealer · 02-24-2014, 08:47 PM

MsoNormal is a Microsoft Word generated class-name (created when you Save As HTML from Word). Calibre's not responsible for that name--even if you DID perform a conversion.

AThirstyMind · 02-28-2014, 08:16 AM

Thanks, it just had me worried because just in the past month Calibre's started doing this. I never saw this before. Maybe I'll stop using them, Or maybe I'll go into the Style Sheet on Sigil and change the style names back to what I want... would this work? When I use the epub (converted by Calibre from the HTML, edited in Sigil) through KindlePreview to convert it to the mobi file, everything seems to be fine. The style names are still not what I want but they do the right things.

theducks · 02-28-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AThirstyMind

Thanks, it just had me worried because just in the past month Calibre's started doing this. I never saw this before. Maybe I'll stop using them, Or maybe I'll go into the Style Sheet on Sigil and change the style names back to what I want... would this work? When I use the epub (converted by Calibre from the HTML, edited in Sigil) through KindlePreview to convert it to the mobi file, everything seems to be fine. The style names are still not what I want but they do the right things.

You can name styles anything you want.
But if yo modify the stylesheet, you need to MATCH the change in the documents. IMHO doing so is just waiting for a slip-up to bite.

DiapDealer · 03-01-2014, 08:40 AM

The short answer is that you can't prevent calibre from renaming classes (though it will never name one MsoNormall) if you do a conversion. It's conversion, after all, not editing. Something entirely new will always be the result of a conversion.

As you've seen however, those changes don't really result (usually) in any difference in how the document renders. You can go back and change the style names if you like, but as theducks mentioned, you'd have to change all the corresponding class attributes in the html as well.

If maintaining existing code (html, css, and class names) is a priority of yours, then you need to build/edit the epubs yourself with an editing program (calibre-edit, Sigil) where you can maintain that level of control--rather than converting.

EDIT: also make sure you're not being fooled by the ORIGINAL_EPUB automatic backup thingie. It wouldn't be the first time it confused someone as to what the real source was for the conversion they thought they were performing.

02-24-2014, 09:43 AM	#1
AThirstyMind A Thirsty Mind Posts: 92 Karma: 2546 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lubec, Maine Device: Kindle Fire, iPad, iPhone	Calibre is renaming my styles Just recently Calibre started renaming my styles... specifically Flush renaming it to MsoNormal Then renaming MsoNormal to MsoNormal1. I don't think this is causing problems, but I want to know why it's happening. My html has the correct style in the style sheet and the places where these styles occur are correct. It's when I put the HTML into Calibre that the problem happens. I don't normally use the Calibre editor to fix files, but Sigil. If it were just one small style and not MsoNormal I wouldn't worry, I'd just change it in the Calibre or Sigil style sheet.

02-24-2014, 08:47 PM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	MsoNormal is a Microsoft Word generated class-name (created when you Save As HTML from Word). Calibre's not responsible for that name--even if you DID perform a conversion. Last edited by DiapDealer; 02-24-2014 at 08:49 PM.

03-01-2014, 08:40 AM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,547 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	The short answer is that you can't prevent calibre from renaming classes (though it will never name one MsoNormall) if you do a conversion. It's conversion, after all, not editing. Something entirely new will always be the result of a conversion. As you've seen however, those changes don't really result (usually) in any difference in how the document renders. You can go back and change the style names if you like, but as theducks mentioned, you'd have to change all the corresponding class attributes in the html as well. If maintaining existing code (html, css, and class names) is a priority of yours, then you need to build/edit the epubs yourself with an editing program (calibre-edit, Sigil) where you can maintain that level of control--rather than converting. EDIT: also make sure you're not being fooled by the ORIGINAL_EPUB automatic backup thingie. It wouldn't be the first time it confused someone as to what the real source was for the conversion they thought they were performing. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-01-2014 at 08:48 AM.

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02-24-2014, 08:35 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	calibre should not rename your styles unless you are performing a conversion. If you convert the book, then calibre will make lots of changes that you may not like, and will also recreate the styles. But the elements in the HTML part of the book should be changed as well, to match.

02-28-2014, 08:16 AM	#4
AThirstyMind A Thirsty Mind Posts: 92 Karma: 2546 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lubec, Maine Device: Kindle Fire, iPad, iPhone	Thanks, it just had me worried because just in the past month Calibre's started doing this. I never saw this before. Maybe I'll stop using them, Or maybe I'll go into the Style Sheet on Sigil and change the style names back to what I want... would this work? When I use the epub (converted by Calibre from the HTML, edited in Sigil) through KindlePreview to convert it to the mobi file, everything seems to be fine. The style names are still not what I want but they do the right things.