Who's Buying Tom Clancy? - Page 2

JeremyR · 11-12-2010, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Tyson

Which hack is writing this one for him?

James Patterson?

raiderkilo · 11-12-2010, 05:55 AM

The old series are OK

billesmont · 11-12-2010, 07:42 AM

Chalk me up as another one who drifted away from Clancy when he started team writing. I occasionally re-read his old stuff but I haven't touched the new stuff in probably 10 years.

jbcohen · 11-12-2010, 07:57 AM

I simply refuse to pay that much for a book, I don't care who wrote it.

pwalker8 · 11-12-2010, 11:22 AM

I'm like a lot here, I bought all the Clancy books as hardbacks when they first came out, up to a point (I would have to go back and look to see the last one I bought), but like a lot of authors, he just ran out of ideas that I found interesting. I did buy several of the older books when they came out in ebooks a while back, but only up through Clear and Present Danger. Of the later books, I thought that Rainbox Six was a pretty decent book, though not great. The rest I have no interest in reading again.

yakuzaboss · 11-12-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Tyson

Which hack is writing this one for him?

Dan Brown?

HarryT · 11-12-2010, 11:37 AM

My favourite Clancy book was "Red Storm Rising" - about a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. I was never particularly a fan of his "Ryan" books.

MV64 · 11-14-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by abookreader

Not at that price -especially not once I saw it appears to be co-authored. I was really excited when it was first announced but then I saw the price and went

Its a Penguin book. My guess is it will be on the Library Overdrive.

Me, too. I was really excited until I saw it was co-authored. For some reason I never bother with authors who do that. Patterson drives me up the wall. I've never read anything by him but it's obvious at this point he's not really writing the books anymore.

This just tells me Clancy won't be actually writing his new one coming out in December and that he basically just gave a new author a blessing to continue the series without him later on. I'll probably read reviews (something I don't put much stock in) and see if it "feels" like a Clancy book or if it feels more like a NetForce book (which should be avoided).

HarryT · 11-14-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MV64

Me, too. I was really excited until I saw it was co-authored. For some reason I never bother with authors who do that. Patterson drives me up the wall. I've never read anything by him but it's obvious at this point he's not really writing the books anymore.

This just tells me Clancy won't be actually writing his new one coming out in December and that he basically just gave a new author a blessing to continue the series without him later on. I'll probably read reviews (something I don't put much stock in) and see if it "feels" like a Clancy book or if it feels more like a NetForce book (which should be avoided).

I wouldn't necessarily be so sure that it'll be a stinker. As I said in an earlier post, my favourite Clancy book is "Red Storm Rising", and that was co-authored. It's a great book.

ProfCrash · 11-14-2010, 06:13 PM

I never knew Red Storm Rising was co-authored. My book only lists Tom Clancy on the front cover.

Cliff Ball · 11-14-2010, 10:51 PM

I read a few of the Jack Ryan novels, and I stopped with the last one, I think it's Red Rabbit. Sometimes, I wonder if some terrorist out there read Debt of Honor and decided to see if they couldn't fly a jumbo jet into the Capital, but, thankfully that didn't happen.

Worldwalker · 11-15-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Ball

Sometimes, I wonder if some terrorist out there read Debt of Honor and decided to see if they couldn't fly a jumbo jet into the Capital, but, thankfully that didn't happen.

One of those things that I always wonder about: when I see "Don't talk about that, a bad guy might get ideas" I have to wonder why people think that criminals aren't as good at crime, and terrorists aren't as good at terror, as random writers who have never done more than read about either one. You wouldn't expect a successful bank robber to be automatically able to write a better novel than a professional novelist, so why does there seem to be the assumption that a novelist can plan a better crime than a professional criminal? I may just be cynical here, but I'm wondering if there isn't a certain element of arrogance on the writers' side. That's the only way "I can write a book, so I must be able to plan a crime" seems to compute.

Perhaps I think too optimistically of the IQ of the human race, but I just can't see all those criminals sitting around waiting for writers to think up crimes for them to commit; I suspect they can figure out how to do bad things without any help at all.

I know it doesn't do any good for the "world's dumbest criminal" types -- the kind who make the news in ridiculous ways. They have, after all, an entire world full of more successful, and much more competent criminals, whose crimes are written up in detail in the newspapers, and they still do painfully stupid things. If they can't learn from the real exploits of real fellow criminals how not to be idiots, novels aren't going to help them any; they've already demonstrated an unwillingness or inability to learn.

clockworkzombie · 11-15-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I never knew Red Storm Rising was co-authored. My book only lists Tom Clancy on the front cover.

Larry Bond is the co author. Larry created the harpoon modern naval warfare miniature rules.

This is probably where you get the sea battle details.

avantman42 · 11-15-2010, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

My favourite Clancy book was "Red Storm Rising" - about a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. I was never particularly a fan of his "Ryan" books.

I really liked Red Storm Rising, although I also liked the Ryan books at first.

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Originally Posted by clockworkzombie

Larry Bond is the co author. Larry created the harpoon modern naval warfare miniature rules.

This is probably where you get the sea battle details.

Larry Bond has also written some books of his own. I've read Red Phoenix (co-authored by Patrick Larkin, though only Larry Bond is mentioned on the cover), and really enjoyed it. He's written others, but I never got around to reading them.

leebase · 11-15-2010, 07:22 AM

Finished the rereading of Teeth of the Tiger. Kind of a light weight compared to the best of the earlier works. Enjoyed it, though.

Lee

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11-12-2010, 05:55 AM	#17
raiderkilo Connoisseur Posts: 80 Karma: 26768 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Slovakia Device: PRS-350 "PRS+"	The old series are OK

11-12-2010, 07:42 AM	#18
billesmont Nameless Being	Chalk me up as another one who drifted away from Clancy when he started team writing. I occasionally re-read his old stuff but I haven't touched the new stuff in probably 10 years.

11-12-2010, 07:57 AM	#19
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,025 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Piper College Device: Samsung A21	I simply refuse to pay that much for a book, I don't care who wrote it.

11-12-2010, 11:22 AM	#20
pwalker8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,195 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2	I'm like a lot here, I bought all the Clancy books as hardbacks when they first came out, up to a point (I would have to go back and look to see the last one I bought), but like a lot of authors, he just ran out of ideas that I found interesting. I did buy several of the older books when they came out in ebooks a while back, but only up through Clear and Present Danger. Of the later books, I thought that Rainbox Six was a pretty decent book, though not great. The rest I have no interest in reading again.

11-12-2010, 11:37 AM	#22
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	My favourite Clancy book was "Red Storm Rising" - about a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. I was never particularly a fan of his "Ryan" books.

11-14-2010, 06:13 PM	#25
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I never knew Red Storm Rising was co-authored. My book only lists Tom Clancy on the front cover.

11-14-2010, 10:51 PM	#26
Cliff Ball Zealot Posts: 135 Karma: 525420 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Device: none	I read a few of the Jack Ryan novels, and I stopped with the last one, I think it's Red Rabbit. Sometimes, I wonder if some terrorist out there read Debt of Honor and decided to see if they couldn't fly a jumbo jet into the Capital, but, thankfully that didn't happen.

11-15-2010, 07:22 AM	#30
leebase Karma Kameleon Posts: 2,934 Karma: 26616647 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: iPad Mini, iPhone X, Kindle Fire Tab HD 8, Walmart Onn	Finished the rereading of Teeth of the Tiger. Kind of a light weight compared to the best of the earlier works. Enjoyed it, though. Lee

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