Paperwhite Second Gen: First Impressions - Page 147

Stingo · 12-23-2013, 09:49 AM

E-ink reader technology is getting to a point were the differences are diminishing in nature. When Kobo comes out with a Carta screen the difference will be narrowed. While I love the Kindle and the Amazon environment, many power users will be able to balance the plus and minuses in each system without sacrificing book source. More casual users will here complaints from reviewers and power users and may rely on them in making their own buying decisions. Ultimately Amazon should pay attention to these concerns. Personally, I once loved my Sony reader. I then loved my Kindle. If the Kindle platform negatives ever outweigh the positives for me I will look at other alternatives. Already, the last upgrade has had me studying options in case that it signals a less open platform.

jgsmith · 12-23-2013, 10:36 AM

What is it about 5.4.2 that has people going back to 5.4.0? I'm on 5.4.2, but other than the goodreads integration, I haven't noticed a difference.

HarryT · 12-23-2013, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgsmith

What is it about 5.4.2 that has people going back to 5.4.0? I'm on 5.4.2, but other than the goodreads integration, I haven't noticed a difference.

Collections. Its behaviour can be irksome if you've created a lot of collections in the past that you no longer want. 5.4.2 will pull them all back from the Cloud.

Dr. Drib · 12-24-2013, 07:38 AM

Since this is an impressions thread for the new paperwhite 2, then let me express my feelings about my newly acquired paperwhite 2:

INCREDIBLE!

There. I feel so much better now. Could someone pass the pepper, please?

Don

ProfCrash · 12-24-2013, 08:22 AM

Passes a cup of Kool Aide.

I figured that is really what you wanted. Enjoy!

GoSharks · 12-24-2013, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Moving collections to the Cloud is another step in the same direction, allowing people to easily share their collections between devices. Sure, the current implementation of it has issues, but long-term it's a sensible move.

Until Amazon provides software to allow one to manage their media outside of the cloud (as Apple did with ITunes), this is simply 'closing' their market and is in no way looking out for the consumer. I am a big fan of Amazon's customer service in general and Kindles in particular, but locking out externally developed software without providing an alternative is not an altruistic move on their part.

JFHey · 12-24-2013, 10:15 PM

Hey guys.

First of all, merry Christmas

Unfortunatelz, I'm really frustrated right now

Got the PW2 for christmas and loved it, until I sendloaded (sent to my kindle email adress) some personal documents onto the PW2.
When I add the new book to a collection, I sometimes get the error that I added contents that will not be synced with the cloud.
I tried it out in a lot of variations, it does't work.
On my old K Touch, it worked fine so far.

Did I overlook anything?? Is it the firmware 5.4.2 causing this error? Did Amazon change their policy regarding personal documents??

eschwartz · 12-24-2013, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFHey

Hey guys.

First of all, merry Christmas

Unfortunatelz, I'm really frustrated right now

Got the PW2 for christmas and loved it, until I sendloaded (sent to my kindle email adress) some personal documents onto the PW2.
When I add the new book to a collection, I sometimes get the error that I added contents that will not be synced with the cloud.
I tried it out in a lot of variations, it does't work.
On my old K Touch, it worked fine so far.

Did I overlook anything?? Is it the firmware 5.4.2 causing this error? Did Amazon change their policy regarding personal documents??

As far as I know, this is a new problem.

Yeesh!

nynaevelan · 12-25-2013, 08:50 AM

So you downloaded your personal docs from your cloud and you are still getting that message?? Yes that one is new, and you should not be getting that if the books are in your cloud.

JFHey · 12-28-2013, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

So you downloaded your personal docs from your cloud and you are still getting that message?? Yes that one is new, and you should not be getting that if the books are in your cloud.

exactly like that.
I have no idea where that issue comes from, but a workaround that worked for me now is importing that book into calibre, letting calibre change the metadata automatically, exporting it into the PW2 mobi-format and sending it to the cloud again.

OT: my device had glowing pixels, and the replacement device which I got today too

let's try again, amazon!
Besides these issues, I'm very happy with that thing

Joykins · 12-28-2013, 10:27 PM

Agreed there should be no need for a reader to be hooked up to wifi all the time.

When I add a book to collections, it should just add it and not bug me about wifi. I hook up to wifi when I want to download a book I have bought/borrowed, and I would expect everything that needs to sync would do so at that time.

nynaevelan · 12-28-2013, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joykins

Agreed there should be no need for a reader to be hooked up to wifi all the time.

When I add a book to collections, it should just add it and not bug me about wifi. I hook up to wifi when I want to download a book I have bought/borrowed, and I would expect everything that needs to sync would do so at that time.

EXACTLY!!

Gazella · 04-25-2014, 02:38 PM

Nothing to be worried about. Looks completely normal. Enjoy your Kindle!

dordale · 04-25-2014, 06:20 PM

I agree with Gazella--nothing to worry about. Set the brightness on your Kindle to what is comfortable for you to read (for me it's between 9-12 in a completely dark room). Then if there is something about the screen that really bothers you, get a hold of Amazon for a replacement. But, based on the pictures you posted, I think you got a really good Kindle.

Skittels · 05-04-2014, 01:53 PM

Coming from a Sony prs505 with a dying battery it is a nice nice improvement, I am used to calibre so that was no issue, ok some purchased books were, but got replacements for those...
Got calibre so far to include the series in the book title and manually created collections on the kindle and put the side loaded books in them, works. Hmmm they even appear in the cloud... So far the only thing I can not get to work without hacking is creating collections automagically, ok and I still miss a couple of buttons, but in the end it will be more than ok and I will be more than happy.

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12-23-2013, 09:49 AM	#2191
Stingo Fanatic Posts: 559 Karma: 1334691 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Miami Device: KH2O, KPW2, KDXG, KPW1, K3, S505	E-ink reader technology is getting to a point were the differences are diminishing in nature. When Kobo comes out with a Carta screen the difference will be narrowed. While I love the Kindle and the Amazon environment, many power users will be able to balance the plus and minuses in each system without sacrificing book source. More casual users will here complaints from reviewers and power users and may rely on them in making their own buying decisions. Ultimately Amazon should pay attention to these concerns. Personally, I once loved my Sony reader. I then loved my Kindle. If the Kindle platform negatives ever outweigh the positives for me I will look at other alternatives. Already, the last upgrade has had me studying options in case that it signals a less open platform.

12-23-2013, 10:36 AM	#2192
jgsmith Connoisseur Posts: 75 Karma: 233442 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Device: Sony PRS-600, Kobo Touch, Kindle PW2	What is it about 5.4.2 that has people going back to 5.4.0? I'm on 5.4.2, but other than the goodreads integration, I haven't noticed a difference.

12-24-2013, 07:38 AM	#2194
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 44,730 Karma: 55645321 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: Kindle: Oasis 3, Voyage WiFi; Kobo: Libra 2, Aura One	Since this is an impressions thread for the new paperwhite 2, then let me express my feelings about my newly acquired paperwhite 2: INCREDIBLE! There. I feel so much better now. Could someone pass the pepper, please? Don

12-24-2013, 08:22 AM	#2195
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Passes a cup of Kool Aide. I figured that is really what you wanted. Enjoy!

12-24-2013, 10:15 PM	#2197
JFHey Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 35710 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Earth Device: KT, PW2, KO2	Hey guys. First of all, merry Christmas Unfortunatelz, I'm really frustrated right now Got the PW2 for christmas and loved it, until I sendloaded (sent to my kindle email adress) some personal documents onto the PW2. When I add the new book to a collection, I sometimes get the error that I added contents that will not be synced with the cloud. I tried it out in a lot of variations, it does't work. On my old K Touch, it worked fine so far. Did I overlook anything?? Is it the firmware 5.4.2 causing this error? Did Amazon change their policy regarding personal documents??

12-25-2013, 08:50 AM	#2199
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	So you downloaded your personal docs from your cloud and you are still getting that message?? Yes that one is new, and you should not be getting that if the books are in your cloud.

12-28-2013, 10:27 PM	#2201
Joykins Wizard Posts: 1,601 Karma: 9211856 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: kindle Oasis 2018, kindle 4 NT, kindle PW2, iPhone, iPad mini	Agreed there should be no need for a reader to be hooked up to wifi all the time. When I add a book to collections, it should just add it and not bug me about wifi. I hook up to wifi when I want to download a book I have bought/borrowed, and I would expect everything that needs to sync would do so at that time.

04-25-2014, 02:38 PM	#2203
Gazella Wizard Posts: 1,694 Karma: 4601218 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle Oasis	Nothing to be worried about. Looks completely normal. Enjoy your Kindle!

04-25-2014, 06:20 PM	#2204
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	I agree with Gazella--nothing to worry about. Set the brightness on your Kindle to what is comfortable for you to read (for me it's between 9-12 in a completely dark room). Then if there is something about the screen that really bothers you, get a hold of Amazon for a replacement. But, based on the pictures you posted, I think you got a really good Kindle.

05-04-2014, 01:53 PM	#2205
Skittels Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: PRS-505/lc	Coming from a Sony prs505 with a dying battery it is a nice nice improvement, I am used to calibre so that was no issue, ok some purchased books were, but got replacements for those... Got calibre so far to include the series in the book title and manually created collections on the kindle and put the side loaded books in them, works. Hmmm they even appear in the cloud... So far the only thing I can not get to work without hacking is creating collections automagically, ok and I still miss a couple of buttons, but in the end it will be more than ok and I will be more than happy.