RTF -> HTML

Dave Berk · 08-28-2008, 09:22 AM

Is there a script/standalone program that can convert an rtf document into html, preferably xhtml with css? Or, if not, a script/standalone program that can clean the garbage that microsoft Word output as html?
I looked on the net. I was sure there would be many such programs. All I could find though were either programs that came as a setup. Which is no good because I don't want to pollute the environment (my computer environment, that is

) or came from sites I wasn't sure about.

Thanks
Dave

zelda_pinwheel · 08-28-2008, 09:26 AM

if you want to make an epub book (which is xhtml + css + a few other elements) i recommend the feedbooks.com interface, which does not install (you create your book online) and which will make valid code.

hadrien is working on a wysiwyg interface which should be in place soon (if it isn't already).

if you don't want to publish the book online, you can just do a preview when you've finished creating it and save it for your own use.

HarryT · 08-28-2008, 09:54 AM

From Word, if you do a "Save As", and then select "Web Page, Filtered" as the output format, you get reasonably clean HTML from it.

delphidb96 · 08-28-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

From Word, if you do a "Save As", and then select "Web Page, Filtered" as the output format, you get reasonably clean HTML from it.

Yep. Word and Atlantis both offer "Save As" options. I'm pretty sure that Abiword and OpenOffice can also "Save As" an RTF document to HTML.

Derek

Dave Berk · 08-28-2008, 10:58 AM

@zelda_pinwheel: Seems like a good solution, but I prefer something that is not web based.

@HarryT: Sadly, "save as web page, filtered" doesn't filter quite enough...

@delphidb96: I thought atlantis sank to the bottom of the ocean...
On the other hand: OpenOffice is a behemoth I'd rather do without, but Abiword portable may be just the thing. Have you tried it?

delphidb96 · 08-28-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Berk

@zelda_pinwheel: Seems like a good solution, but I prefer something that is not web based.

@HarryT: Sadly, "save as web page, filtered" doesn't filter quite enough...

@delphidb96: I thought atlantis sank to the bottom of the ocean...
On the other hand: OpenOffice is a behemoth I'd rather do without, but Abiword portable may be just the thing. Have you tried it?

I've tried Abiword. However, for a full-featured, word processor, I've found that Atlantis works very well. And while not free, Atlantis *STILL* costs only $35 to register!

They're at: http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en/

AAMOF, Atlantis is my *default* wp for writing. (It added this nifty "copy as HTML" feature.

)

Derek

zelda_pinwheel · 08-28-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Berk

@zelda_pinwheel: Seems like a good solution, but I prefer something that is not web based.

you also mention in your first post you don't want something that comes as a "setup" which i took to mean a program which installs in your system (.exe). is that correct ? maybe i misunderstood. if you don't want to install and you don't want a web-based program i'm not sure you'll find many possibilities.

otherwise there is the option of hand-coding using a text-editor.

delphidb96 · 08-28-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

you also mention in your first post you don't want something that comes as a "setup" which i took to mean a program which installs in your system (.exe). is that correct ? maybe i misunderstood. if you don't want to install and you don't want a web-based program i'm not sure you'll find many possibilities.

otherwise there is the option of hand-coding using a text-editor.

Copy Con. Every Windows PC has the ability to do Copy Con.

Derek

kovidgoyal · 08-28-2008, 11:30 AM

unrtf

ashkulz · 08-28-2008, 12:06 PM

you might want to use HTML Tidy with the options

tidy -m -b -win1252 <html-file>

There's also an option --word-2000 yes which is even more agressive.

Dave Berk · 08-28-2008, 12:14 PM

@zelda_pinwheel: What I want is a simple standalone exe, preferable cli based. So I could dump it in my directory of other ebook related tools that can be used from a USB stick on my uni computers...

@kovidgoyal: Thanks. Looks like what I was looking for..

@ashkulz: Thanks a lot. Suddenly I seemed to be swamped with options...

shieldlp · 09-06-2008, 05:59 PM

I use OpenOffice Writer to check spelling, reduce the MS stuff, and on some magic way I have yet to understand, it converts all the punctuation to symbols that the Mobi Converter understand.

The software makes it very easy to switch from en_us to en_gb and it can use multiple dictionaries. I use a SF dictionary to hold strange SF terms, I use a Bernard Cornwell dictionary to hold all the Saxon/Gaelic/Arthurian names and places, I use a Pulp dictionary to hold all the weird profanity and grunts, I use a Language Dictionary to fold Foreign words and phrases, and I have a Slang dictionary to handle the multiple contractions authors use.

If I an editiamn a SF Book, th eactive dictionaries are SF, Slang, Language, and the default OpenOffice one.

The one fly-in-the ointment is the software won't find or replace a ^p/CR-LF that Microsoft uses.I still need to pass the final draft back to Word to change all the CR-LFs to ^l/CRs.

This last pass doesn't load up the document with the MS formatting garbage that swells a straight Word document.

Here is the link to get the free OpenOffice doenload:

http://www.openoffice.org/

RWood · 09-06-2008, 06:38 PM

I've used Tidy (or HTML Tidy) and it works great to strip the unneeded MS Word stuff from the file. Like Dave I removed the OpenOffice stuff from my system. While it is nice, it is a major bloatware application. I do not mind the exe installer or the time spent downloading the application (and the updates), it is just that the thing is a monster when it runs. It is resource hungry. It seems to be built with the same philosophy as the old Netscape rather than the newer Firefox. (Although with FF3 it seems that a lot of the old Netscape thinking has reemerged.)

08-28-2008, 09:22 AM	#1
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	RTF -> HTML Is there a script/standalone program that can convert an rtf document into html, preferably xhtml with css? Or, if not, a script/standalone program that can clean the garbage that microsoft Word output as html? I looked on the net. I was sure there would be many such programs. All I could find though were either programs that came as a setup. Which is no good because I don't want to pollute the environment (my computer environment, that is ) or came from sites I wasn't sure about. Thanks Dave

08-28-2008, 12:14 PM	#11
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	@zelda_pinwheel: What I want is a simple standalone exe, preferable cli based. So I could dump it in my directory of other ebook related tools that can be used from a USB stick on my uni computers... @kovidgoyal: Thanks. Looks like what I was looking for.. @ashkulz: Thanks a lot. Suddenly I seemed to be swamped with options... Last edited by Dave Berk; 08-28-2008 at 12:16 PM.

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08-28-2008, 09:26 AM	#2
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	if you want to make an epub book (which is xhtml + css + a few other elements) i recommend the feedbooks.com interface, which does not install (you create your book online) and which will make valid code. hadrien is working on a wysiwyg interface which should be in place soon (if it isn't already). if you don't want to publish the book online, you can just do a preview when you've finished creating it and save it for your own use.

08-28-2008, 09:54 AM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	From Word, if you do a "Save As", and then select "Web Page, Filtered" as the output format, you get reasonably clean HTML from it.

08-28-2008, 10:58 AM	#5
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	@zelda_pinwheel: Seems like a good solution, but I prefer something that is not web based. @HarryT: Sadly, "save as web page, filtered" doesn't filter quite enough... @delphidb96: I thought atlantis sank to the bottom of the ocean... On the other hand: OpenOffice is a behemoth I'd rather do without, but Abiword portable may be just the thing. Have you tried it?

08-28-2008, 11:30 AM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,866 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	unrtf

08-28-2008, 12:06 PM	#10
ashkulz Addict Posts: 350 Karma: 705 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Kindle 1/REB 1200	you might want to use HTML Tidy with the options tidy -m -b -win1252 <html-file> There's also an option --word-2000 yes which is even more agressive.

09-06-2008, 05:59 PM	#12
shieldlp Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rome, Italy Device: kindle	I use OpenOffice Writer to check spelling, reduce the MS stuff, and on some magic way I have yet to understand, it converts all the punctuation to symbols that the Mobi Converter understand. The software makes it very easy to switch from en_us to en_gb and it can use multiple dictionaries. I use a SF dictionary to hold strange SF terms, I use a Bernard Cornwell dictionary to hold all the Saxon/Gaelic/Arthurian names and places, I use a Pulp dictionary to hold all the weird profanity and grunts, I use a Language Dictionary to fold Foreign words and phrases, and I have a Slang dictionary to handle the multiple contractions authors use. If I an editiamn a SF Book, th eactive dictionaries are SF, Slang, Language, and the default OpenOffice one. The one fly-in-the ointment is the software won't find or replace a ^p/CR-LF that Microsoft uses.I still need to pass the final draft back to Word to change all the CR-LFs to ^l/CRs. This last pass doesn't load up the document with the MS formatting garbage that swells a straight Word document. Here is the link to get the free OpenOffice doenload: http://www.openoffice.org/

09-06-2008, 06:38 PM	#13
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	I've used Tidy (or HTML Tidy) and it works great to strip the unneeded MS Word stuff from the file. Like Dave I removed the OpenOffice stuff from my system. While it is nice, it is a major bloatware application. I do not mind the exe installer or the time spent downloading the application (and the updates), it is just that the thing is a monster when it runs. It is resource hungry. It seems to be built with the same philosophy as the old Netscape rather than the newer Firefox. (Although with FF3 it seems that a lot of the old Netscape thinking has reemerged.)

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