64 bit vista + sony reader/cybook?

hapax legomenon · 09-26-2007, 03:26 AM

Hi, I'm thinking of installing the 64 bit version of vista.

Would I have problems putting content on my Sony Reader and/or Cybook?

I don't have to do the 64 bit route, but it would be nice.

hapax legomenon · 09-26-2007, 03:32 AM

aha, I see this
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t+vista&page=2

Do I really need a usb driver if I can put the files onto the SD card directly with the card reader?

HarryT · 09-26-2007, 04:01 AM

No, you certainly don't need to use "Connect" if you put the files directly on an SD card with a card reader. You would need it, though, if you wished to buy any books from the Connect Store.

Why not set up your system as dual boot 32bit/64bit? Best of both worlds, that way.

Nobody knows, AFAIK, if the CyBook has a 64-bit USB driver, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Do you have any compelling reason to use Vista 64? It seems to me to be more trouble than it's worth for a home system. Its only real benefits, as far as I can see, appear to be for applications such as very large databases where the removal of the 4GB process address space limit improves performance.

JSWolf · 09-26-2007, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapax legomenon

Hi, I'm thinking of installing the 64 bit version of vista.

Would I have problems putting content on my Sony Reader and/or Cybook?

I don't have to do the 64 bit route, but it would be nice.

What OS do you run now? If it's XP then keep it. If it's Vista 32-bit and it's working, keep it. You'll find no end to compatibility issues using a 64-bit Windows.

kovidgoyal · 09-26-2007, 11:41 AM

Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

hapax legomenon · 09-26-2007, 01:00 PM

Well, as someone who runs linux and does dual booting right now, I am certainly amenable to your messages.

Are there any commercial ebook systems where you don't need special USB drivers to put commercial content on the machine? (where presumably the validation would exist on the device and not the PC).

HarryT · 09-26-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapax legomenon

Are there any commercial ebook systems where you don't need special USB drivers to put commercial content on the machine? (where presumably the validation would exist on the device and not the PC).

Sure. If you have a device which uses MobiPocket, for example, you can buy content from any of the numerous web sites which sell such books, enter your device's MobiPocket ID (a hex string which acts as an encryption key) on the web site, download the book to your PC, and transfer it to your reading device via a memory card. Virtually all bookreaders support memory cards of one kind or another.

Then there are a large number of DRM-free eBooks (both free and commercial) where there's no issue - again just transfer via a memory card.

fogfire · 03-08-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

Actually This is misinformation..
64bit is designed to be more secure so defaults to wanting signed drivers.
So you know you are getting software that is from a known source vs a trojan. Kernal mode drivers and drivers that are releated to the protected content playing in vista are the ones that need to be signed.

Here is how to disable that:
http://chris123nt.com/2007/04/28/driver-signing-in-x64/

if you are courious...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Win....mspx?mfr=true

You do not need to pay for windows logo certification to have a signed driver, you just need to get a trusted certificate from a root provider like you would for a website or email signature. The cert is not sold by microsoft.. and costs between $150-200 a year.. there may be cheaper versions.

kovidgoyal · 03-09-2008, 01:20 AM

How is it misinformation? The only part of it that's not correct is that you have to pay microsoft for the certificate, rather than a 3rd party.

And turning it off is just not an option for most users.

JSWolf · 03-09-2008, 05:17 AM

The problem is that Microsoft makes it too difficult to support 64-bit Windows and thus, support it poor and if you choose to run a 64-bit Windows, then you most likely WILL NOT be able to run all the software you want to or use all the hardware you want to.

So the best solution is to stick with a 32-bit Windows.

zeek2517 · 03-24-2008, 11:28 PM

I have been using Vista x64 with my Sony PRS-505 for a while now. I haven't used the sony software myself, I think it's crap anyway. I use the Libprs500 or just drag and drop through windows explorer.

The whole issue with disabling the driver signing check, should not bother anyone either. Most people have been installing unsigned 3rd party drivers for years now, not even realizing it. Microsoft is trying to sell all their new windows intergrated security checks by feeding paranoia to the uninformed.

dandan77 · 05-22-2008, 12:02 PM

i tried to ask sony about the proble, thay dont replay any one has a simple soloution ?????
thanks

Megatron-UK · 05-22-2008, 01:48 PM

If you run the Sony installer from a command prompt there is an option you can use to just extract the files to a directory, then you can just put the Connect software anywhere you want. XP and Vista (both 32 and 64bit) do not need drivers for the 505. The connect software itself runs fine on Vista 64.

dandan77 · 05-22-2008, 02:29 PM

how i do it from a command promt ?
i didnt understand ?
please help me

lewesian · 09-14-2008, 12:41 PM

I asked Sony about Windows 64bit and this was their reply (apparently Macs and 64bit are specialist and minority - I call it a lazy response):

Thank you for your recent e-mail received on xx/09/2008

Sony products will not operate with VISTA 64.

The V64 system is specialist and a minority product (like XP64 or Mac) Sony have no current plans at present to make products compatible. To obtain more detail and find out what exactly VISTA 64 is and what it is for, please see the link below:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ons/64bit.mspx

I am sorry for any disappointment that this response may cause.

Yours sincerely

Daniel Ayliffe
Customer Information Centre
SONY UNITED KINGDOM LTD

09-26-2007, 03:26 AM	#1
hapax legomenon Erotica Writer Posts: 102 Karma: 106 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Device: ipad, Sony Reader PRS 505, Cybook 3	64 bit vista + sony reader/cybook? Hi, I'm thinking of installing the 64 bit version of vista. Would I have problems putting content on my Sony Reader and/or Cybook? I don't have to do the 64 bit route, but it would be nice.

05-22-2008, 12:02 PM	#12
dandan77 Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: sony reader mio180	vista x64 ????? i tried to ask sony about the proble, thay dont replay any one has a simple soloution ????? thanks

05-22-2008, 02:29 PM	#14
dandan77 Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: sony reader mio180	what do you mean ? how i do it from a command promt ? i didnt understand ? please help me

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09-26-2007, 11:41 AM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Microsoft refuses to allow unsigned drivers to run on 64-bit Vista. In other words you have to beg (and pay) them for the privilege of writing device drivers for their wonderful operating system. I suggest you get off the Microsoft train wreck ASAP.

09-26-2007, 01:00 PM	#6
hapax legomenon Erotica Writer Posts: 102 Karma: 106 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Device: ipad, Sony Reader PRS 505, Cybook 3	Well, as someone who runs linux and does dual booting right now, I am certainly amenable to your messages. Are there any commercial ebook systems where you don't need special USB drivers to put commercial content on the machine? (where presumably the validation would exist on the device and not the PC).

03-09-2008, 01:20 AM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	How is it misinformation? The only part of it that's not correct is that you have to pay microsoft for the certificate, rather than a 3rd party. And turning it off is just not an option for most users.

03-09-2008, 05:17 AM	#10
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,998 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The problem is that Microsoft makes it too difficult to support 64-bit Windows and thus, support it poor and if you choose to run a 64-bit Windows, then you most likely WILL NOT be able to run all the software you want to or use all the hardware you want to. So the best solution is to stick with a 32-bit Windows.

03-24-2008, 11:28 PM	#11
zeek2517 Member Posts: 19 Karma: 382 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: PRS-505	I have been using Vista x64 with my Sony PRS-505 for a while now. I haven't used the sony software myself, I think it's crap anyway. I use the Libprs500 or just drag and drop through windows explorer. The whole issue with disabling the driver signing check, should not bother anyone either. Most people have been installing unsigned 3rd party drivers for years now, not even realizing it. Microsoft is trying to sell all their new windows intergrated security checks by feeding paranoia to the uninformed.

05-22-2008, 01:48 PM	#13
Megatron-UK Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: uk Device: Sony PRS505	If you run the Sony installer from a command prompt there is an option you can use to just extract the files to a directory, then you can just put the Connect software anywhere you want. XP and Vista (both 32 and 64bit) do not need drivers for the 505. The connect software itself runs fine on Vista 64.

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lewesian Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: 505	I asked Sony about Windows 64bit and this was their reply (apparently Macs and 64bit are specialist and minority - I call it a lazy response): Thank you for your recent e-mail received on xx/09/2008 Sony products will not operate with VISTA 64. The V64 system is specialist and a minority product (like XP64 or Mac) Sony have no current plans at present to make products compatible. To obtain more detail and find out what exactly VISTA 64 is and what it is for, please see the link below: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ons/64bit.mspx I am sorry for any disappointment that this response may cause. Yours sincerely Daniel Ayliffe Customer Information Centre SONY UNITED KINGDOM LTD

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