New eink Kindles coming? - Page 2

geekmaster · 08-03-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eureka

There is also implemented support for capacitive multi-touch screen in KT firmwares.

That confirms what I read in a press release some time ago, that future kindle ebook models would contain capacitive touchscreens. Perhaps that is also why the kindle Touch has been reported in another thread to be out of stock, with a remark that it is not known when or IF they will be in stock again.

HarryT · 08-03-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by geekmaster

Perhaps that is also why the kindle Touch has been reported in another thread to be out of stock, with a remark that it is not know when or IF they will be in stock again.

I doubt it. The Kindle Touch is in stock in other Amazon stores, such as the UK store. I think this is just a supply issue in the US store.

geekmaster · 08-03-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I doubt it. The Kindle Touch is in stock in other Amazon stores, such as the UK store. I think this is just a supply issue in the US store.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...famstripe_kt3g

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Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

If? That sounds more like a policy issue than a supply issue.

AnemicOak · 08-03-2012, 10:57 AM

Amazon US has the WiFi KTouch available, it's just the 3G version thats OOS. The when or if thing is standard phrasing on Amazon when things are OOS.

geekmaster · 08-03-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Amazon US has the WiFi KTouch available, it's just the 3G version thats OOS. The when or if thing is standard phrasing on Amazon when things are OOS.

Ahh.. That "if thing" was probably just a "weasel word" inserted by legal staff to avoid the appearance of a commitment. I apparently misunderstood their intent and actually thought that the word "if" meant something.

HarryT · 08-03-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by geekmaster

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...famstripe_kt3g
If? That sounds more like a policy issue than a supply issue.

But, from Amazon UK:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005890FOO

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Kindle Touch 3G
Top-of-the-line e-reader, with touch and free 3G wireless
4.3 out of 5 stars See all reviews (674 customer reviews) | Like (765)

£169.00 Free shipping with Amazon Prime

In stock.
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk. Gift-wrap available.

NiLuJe · 08-03-2012, 12:45 PM

FWIW, re: the 3G thing, a number of the devboards I mentioned still *have* a wan chip

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jswinden · 08-03-2012, 12:49 PM

I think we have a few firmware-peakers who make assumptions which cannot be substantiated and then speculate that this means there are new Kindles coming immediately. When I taught at the university I would bleed all over research papers that used pseudo-logic. What a load! New Kindles might appear, and they might appear sooner than we think, but these assumptions are ridiculous and should not be put forth as though they are fact.

One thing is for sure, we won't get any new Kindles before Amazon announces them and as far as I know Amazon has not even scheduled any conferences yet. I suspect we are at least a month or two away from an announcement, then possibly weeks later before any new devices ship. Last year they announced the Fire and Touch in late September but didn't start shipping until about 6 weeks later.

geekmaster · 08-03-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I think we have a few firmware-peakers who make assumptions which cannot be substantiated and then speculate that this means there are new Kindles coming immediately.
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Who "speculated" anything about "immediately"?

Only amazon can "substantiate" our "educated guesses" (not assumptions).

You have a way of making "firmware-peakers" sound so dirty.

EDIT: Kindle Color Touch with capacitive touchscreen release date ESTIMATED 2012 September based on reports from "supply chain sources": http://authoradventures.blogspot.com...uch-color.html
But then was quoted in a Reuters article as saying "not this year". The only announced update at this time is adding front-lit displays to existing models.

HarryT · 08-03-2012, 01:40 PM

One always has to treat these things with caution: a few months ago we were being told by those "in the know" that we would CERTAINLY get a front-lit Kindle in July

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geekmaster · 08-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

One always has to treat these things with caution: a few months ago we were being told by those "in the know" that we would CERTAINLY get a front-lit Kindle in July

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Release dates have a habit of slipping. Release dates also affect the bottom line. Announcing a new product too early can slow sales of existing inventory. Sometimes new releases are delayed while existing inventory is being cleared out, or until the competition forces you to match their release date.

beautifulsoup · 08-03-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

There is for all Kindles 3, 4 and KT. It will be under your MYK page once you activate it. It's the cost difference of the device.

Thank you, Blossom.

geoffwood · 08-03-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I think we have a few firmware-peakers ... When I taught at the university...

That would be peek, not peak

haydnfan · 08-03-2012, 08:36 PM

Digitimes = completely unreliable source. Amazon debunked the claims that the next kindle will have color eink. I think that the lighting is likely, the color is not going to happen and anything else is too speculative. It seems that Amazon likes to make more than one change for a new product, so there might be something else. But who can say?

As far as the out of stock thing-- if Amazon is planning on rolling out the next gen of kindles they probably have ceased production of the current gen. Eventually all of the kindles will be difficult to obtain, but that doesn't mean that we will see new kindles this very month!

ZigZagJoe · 08-04-2012, 01:34 PM

Only thing I really want from a new kindle is a plastic substrate screen.

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08-03-2012, 10:57 AM	#19
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Amazon US has the WiFi KTouch available, it's just the 3G version thats OOS. The when or if thing is standard phrasing on Amazon when things are OOS.

08-03-2012, 12:45 PM	#22
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	FWIW, re: the 3G thing, a number of the devboards I mentioned still have a wan chip .

08-03-2012, 12:49 PM	#23
jswinden Nameless Being	I think we have a few firmware-peakers who make assumptions which cannot be substantiated and then speculate that this means there are new Kindles coming immediately. When I taught at the university I would bleed all over research papers that used pseudo-logic. What a load! New Kindles might appear, and they might appear sooner than we think, but these assumptions are ridiculous and should not be put forth as though they are fact. One thing is for sure, we won't get any new Kindles before Amazon announces them and as far as I know Amazon has not even scheduled any conferences yet. I suspect we are at least a month or two away from an announcement, then possibly weeks later before any new devices ship. Last year they announced the Fire and Touch in late September but didn't start shipping until about 6 weeks later.

08-03-2012, 01:40 PM	#25
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	One always has to treat these things with caution: a few months ago we were being told by those "in the know" that we would CERTAINLY get a front-lit Kindle in July .

08-03-2012, 08:36 PM	#29
haydnfan Guru Posts: 649 Karma: 5632362 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle PW 4, Oasis 2	Digitimes = completely unreliable source. Amazon debunked the claims that the next kindle will have color eink. I think that the lighting is likely, the color is not going to happen and anything else is too speculative. It seems that Amazon likes to make more than one change for a new product, so there might be something else. But who can say? As far as the out of stock thing-- if Amazon is planning on rolling out the next gen of kindles they probably have ceased production of the current gen. Eventually all of the kindles will be difficult to obtain, but that doesn't mean that we will see new kindles this very month!

08-04-2012, 01:34 PM	#30
ZigZagJoe Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Ex-Kindle 2	Only thing I really want from a new kindle is a plastic substrate screen.

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