Hacks font hack question

JaneFancher · 05-04-2012, 04:30 PM

I guess I'm just dumb...I've applied the hacks...jailbreak and the font hack, I've put my fonts in the font folder. I've rebooted...should I be seeing my embedded fonts? Or is this just a way to change the single default font...and if so, where do you perform this miracle?

Basically, I'm dealing with files I've made of my own books. I've embedded fonts in the epub and my embedded fonts show on my K4PC (which implies the html code is still intact....since the fonts are installed on my computer.)

Sorry if this s/b obvious, but I'm confused.

Oh...I have a plain older K2. My hack for the screensaver worked like a charm, so I'm not totally off in my process.

Thanks for any advice!

susan_cassidy · 05-04-2012, 06:45 PM

I'm a little confused. Kindles don't read ePub files, and .mobi doesn't support embedded fonts.

JaneFancher · 05-04-2012, 07:58 PM

Check out the Kindle hack pages of this forum.

There is a way to get alternate fonts to display...what I can't figure from the instructions for hacking the Kindle is whether or not you can have several fonts in a file displaying (i.e. special title fonts) or if the hack just allows you to adjust the default font.

I create ebook files in many formats and if you begin with a properly formatted epub file, Kindlegen creates a very nice Kindle mobi file which has the code to display fonts that are installed on the viewing device (in kindle for PC, for instance, my mobi files display the proper fonts.) The underlying basis for both mobi and epub files is html which has font css. That means the code is in the file. There's nothing magical about the fonts kindle displays, it's just a default inbuilt to the OS.

The Kindle hack makes you able to change...something...but the example just shows the default font changed. I was hoping someone could tell me how it's supposed to function.

NiLuJe · 05-04-2012, 09:44 PM

Embedded fonts is a KF8 feature (ie. KF/KT only), the purpose of the K2/K3 font hack is to switch the global serif/sans-serif families (ie. what you set in the [Aa] menu in the reader) at the framework level, everywhere. It doesn't care about the book themselves, nothing really supports embedded fonts on these devices anyway.

JaneFancher · 05-05-2012, 02:06 PM

Thanks NiLuJe! That's what I wanted to know. Now I'm curious to see what one of my books looks like on a KF! I'm generating the Mobi on Kindlegen/Kindle preview. Maybe it'll have my fonts!

When you say "these devices..." does that go for epub devices as well? I have only an old nook to check with and they show in it.

Goodness...I wish they'd quit playing games and settle on a format and actually make it work!

(I know...far from an original lament!

)

UPDATE: checked on kindlepreviewer and the KF one shows my fonts! YAYAYAY For those interested...I embedded the fonts in my epub file...and converted using kindle previewer. I think if you clean up your epub so that your fonts show in Adobe digital Editions, they'll probably work in KF.

Off to do a snoopy dance....(I'm so easily amused these days...)

05-04-2012, 04:30 PM	#1
JaneFancher Zealot Posts: 123 Karma: 496 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane, Washington Device: Kindle2	font hack question I guess I'm just dumb...I've applied the hacks...jailbreak and the font hack, I've put my fonts in the font folder. I've rebooted...should I be seeing my embedded fonts? Or is this just a way to change the single default font...and if so, where do you perform this miracle? Basically, I'm dealing with files I've made of my own books. I've embedded fonts in the epub and my embedded fonts show on my K4PC (which implies the html code is still intact....since the fonts are installed on my computer.) Sorry if this s/b obvious, but I'm confused. Oh...I have a plain older K2. My hack for the screensaver worked like a charm, so I'm not totally off in my process. Thanks for any advice!

05-05-2012, 02:06 PM	#5
JaneFancher Zealot Posts: 123 Karma: 496 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane, Washington Device: Kindle2	Thanks NiLuJe! That's what I wanted to know. Now I'm curious to see what one of my books looks like on a KF! I'm generating the Mobi on Kindlegen/Kindle preview. Maybe it'll have my fonts! When you say "these devices..." does that go for epub devices as well? I have only an old nook to check with and they show in it. Goodness...I wish they'd quit playing games and settle on a format and actually make it work! (I know...far from an original lament! ) UPDATE: checked on kindlepreviewer and the KF one shows my fonts! YAYAYAY For those interested...I embedded the fonts in my epub file...and converted using kindle previewer. I think if you clean up your epub so that your fonts show in Adobe digital Editions, they'll probably work in KF. Off to do a snoopy dance....(I'm so easily amused these days...) Last edited by JaneFancher; 05-05-2012 at 02:15 PM. Reason: Update

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05-04-2012, 06:45 PM	#2
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	I'm a little confused. Kindles don't read ePub files, and .mobi doesn't support embedded fonts.

05-04-2012, 07:58 PM	#3
JaneFancher Zealot Posts: 123 Karma: 496 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane, Washington Device: Kindle2	Check out the Kindle hack pages of this forum. There is a way to get alternate fonts to display...what I can't figure from the instructions for hacking the Kindle is whether or not you can have several fonts in a file displaying (i.e. special title fonts) or if the hack just allows you to adjust the default font. I create ebook files in many formats and if you begin with a properly formatted epub file, Kindlegen creates a very nice Kindle mobi file which has the code to display fonts that are installed on the viewing device (in kindle for PC, for instance, my mobi files display the proper fonts.) The underlying basis for both mobi and epub files is html which has font css. That means the code is in the file. There's nothing magical about the fonts kindle displays, it's just a default inbuilt to the OS. The Kindle hack makes you able to change...something...but the example just shows the default font changed. I was hoping someone could tell me how it's supposed to function.

05-04-2012, 09:44 PM	#4
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Embedded fonts is a KF8 feature (ie. KF/KT only), the purpose of the K2/K3 font hack is to switch the global serif/sans-serif families (ie. what you set in the [Aa] menu in the reader) at the framework level, everywhere. It doesn't care about the book themselves, nothing really supports embedded fonts on these devices anyway.