Tor/Forge Books Announces DRM-Free E-book Store

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ApK

OK, I think I'm misunderstanding Elfwreck's post.



Nah, LIT is more deader than mobi.

LIT has become ePub. So it's not really dead. It's just upgraded.

[GreenMonkey]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If Adobe was to get out of the DRM business, you could still be screwed. If you needed to buy a new system drive because your current one is dying or has died. You buy a new computer to replace your old one...You lose the key to the ePub.

Look at Mobipocket. When I last upgraded my desktop computer, I tried to move the PID to the laptop. It was a big failure. The PID is tied into the computer. Sure, I was able to strip the DRM no problem. But if you aren't able to strip DRM, consider your eBooks dead.

Stripping the DRM is the only way I can be assured my eBooks will be usable in the future. I have not registered my 650 with Adobe because it never gets an eBook on it with DRM. They go through Calibre with has the plugins to remove the DRM. It's a seamless process.

Yeah, I didn't realize Adobe's DRM scheme required activation of a computer or a call home at all - I guess because I'm more familiar with B&N's variant (which relies on the CC number the book was sold/downloaded with).

I don't read any books until I strip the DRM and I almost never buy it. This is why I don't understand Adobe epub that well (my wife uses a Kindle and I strip DRM from B&N epubs) I was just trying to continue to answer the question from two pages ago that started this discussion:

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

Why would something like this attract the average consumer? I have never had a problem with DRM, why would I want to go out of my way to avoid it? Why would most people who only had one brand of eReader and who weren't pirates?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Fbone

How much support is there for the secure eReader format? Is that dying also?

Fictionwise still sells eReader format. But really, it's dead and unless you can strip the DRM & convert it, it's fairly useless.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by GreenMonkey

Yeah, I didn't realize Adobe's DRM scheme required activation of a computer or a call home at all - I guess because I'm more familiar with B&N's variant (which relies on the CC number the book was sold/downloaded with).

I don't read any books until I strip the DRM and I almost never buy it. This is why I don't understand Adobe epub that well (my wife uses a Kindle and I strip DRM from B&N epubs) I was just trying to continue to answer the question from two pages ago that started this discussion:

If you have ADE on your computer and registered and you have the DRMed ePub as well, as long as your computer works, you can open the eBooks in ADE.

One thing I am not sure of is if you need the DRM server to say register a reader that has ADE on it. But if the reader was register before the DRM servers when down, you'd still be able to put the eBooks on the reader.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Fictionwise still sells eReader format. But really, it's dead and unless you can strip the DRM & convert it, it's fairly useless.

But, they haven't added any new secure eReader books in months have they?

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

But, they haven't added any new secure eReader books in months have they?

Goodness — you're right. They haven't released any new Secure eReader ebooks since May.

[HarryT]

To return to the original topic of this thread: where is the announced DRM-free bookstore? Selling your books in other companies' stores is rather different to having your own store!

[charlesatan]

Originally Posted by HarryT

To return to the original topic of this thread: where is the announced DRM-free bookstore? Selling your books in other companies' stores is rather different to having your own store!

No announcement yet, still in the works.

[MikeB1972]

Originally Posted by HarryT

To return to the original topic of this thread: where is the announced DRM-free bookstore? Selling your books in other companies' stores is rather different to having your own store!

The plan is to open their own store at the end of summer. Not sure when summer ends where they are though.

I think they always said that DRM Free and their own store were 2 seperate projects (and they obviously needed to lose the DRM before opening the store or you would need a buch of useless code for linking to adobe for the download).

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

I think that DRM is an issue for a very small number of people, probably most of them geeks.

Most of them are people with large ebook collections. The same people who, as Charlie Stross points out, purchase most genre midlist titles. The most obvious groups are romance readers and sf readers, both of whom read widely, borrow widely, buy widely, reread a lot, and have been early adopters of ebooks and ereaders. The longer you've been reading digitally, the larger your collection and the more of an issue DRM becomes--portability, control, etc, become factors.

[artifact]

The site still says 'Coming Summer 2012'. Has anyone heard any updates/rumors over the past year? Delayed by the Big6 settlement, perhaps?