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Old 06-14-2016, 12:11 PM   #1561
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Yes, it is.
'Reset' and 'Restart' are adjacent menu choices on the setting dropdown menu.

A little bit of finger shake, a slightly too sensitive touch screen and approaching 'Restart' from the 'Reset' side of the menu ...

Yup - all to easy - people should stick with holding the power button pressed and picking 'Restart' from that pop-up panel.
But the IG (instant gratification) generation has trouble "wasting" the 7 seconds it takes for the pop-up panel to appear.
And to make folks even more confused, the little button in the "paperclip port" on my K1, which "restarts" the device, is clearly labelled RESET (as are the missing switch contacts inside the paperwhite models). In fact, the button that restarts most devices is labelled "RESET". And the word "restart" has an alternate meaning in many environments; restarting a project means you scrap everything and begin anew, just like a "factory reset".

Restart/reset, interchangeable meanings depending on context. They should be in completely different menus, not adjacent where they can be "fat-fingered", and with plenty of sufficient warning before destroying user settings.

The current placement and wording was clearly not thought out as well as it could be -- perhaps they can make it safer is a future firmware update? For me, "factory erase" seems better than "factory reset". Or for modern computer-literate folks, perhaps "format device"? But perhaps "format" might confuse publishing folks? Yeah, "erase" is safer...

English has confusing syntax and grammar -- just consider "inflammable" and "invaluable" (synonyms of "valuable" and "flammable") compared to "insane" and "incompetent" (antonyms of "sane" and "competent"). And with English become a world-wide common language, who know what such confusion may cause in the future.

EDIT: Not just dissimilar meanings of similar words, but similar spellings of dissimilar words as well. Of course, American English has simplified many of these words, but Ye Olde English spellings are still used from time to time as well: "A rough, dough-faced, thoughtful ploughman emerged from a slough to walk through the streets of Scarborough, coughing and hiccoughing." ESL catatasrophe in the making?


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Old 06-14-2016, 12:14 PM   #1562
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And to make folks even more confused, the little button in the "paperclip port" on my K1, which "restarts" the device, is clearly labelled RESET (as are the missing switch contacts inside the paperwhite models). In fact, the button that restarts most devices is labelled "RESET". And the word "restart" has an alternate meaning in many environments; restarting a project means you scrap everything and begin anew, just like a "factory reset".

Restart/reset, interchangeable meanings depending on context. They should be in completely different menus, not adjacent where they can be "fat-fingered", and with plenty of sufficient warning before destroying user settings.
Totally agreeing with you.
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:47 AM   #1563
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Hmmm... I don't. Or better: I agree that the menu is poorly thought, I agree that the word "reset" on the paperclip port is wrong.

But I don't think it makes a point the fact that restart/reset have interchangeable meaning depending on the context. It doesn't matter that restarting a project in sw development means resetting everything that had been done so far: what only means is the context you are using it at that time, and the kindle menu is NOT a development project.
So they are fully entitled to use the term "reset" on that menu item, expecially because the "restart" item nearby should make you aware what meaning the term "reset" has there. We cannot blame amazon or lab121 for that term.

But yes, of course, as I already said in the first time, I cannot believe there isn't a confirmation popup, something like "Are you sure you want to restore the factory settings of your kindle", and it starts right away. And of course it should be far away from the restart button.

Btw, regarding english language.. it's not english. Also latin languages have that, I think all ancient-greek and ancient-latin derivated languages have it (can't say for others).
Actually the in- prefix comes from latin, while the a- prefix from greek. So you may say that english just copied from south european languages.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:39 AM   #1564
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:11 AM   #1565
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I usually restart by launching a "reboot" in the ssh wifi console

(With apologies to NiLuJe,) great minds think alike.

Aeris' KindleMenu with kterm entry is pretty fast too. And accessible from anywhere, even if I did something stupid and basically crashed the UI to the point where everything Amazon wrote takes several minutes to accomplish.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:32 PM   #1566
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:21 PM   #1567
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Once that's done, put the Update_KUALBooklet_v*_install.bin file (found in the same archive as mentioned earlier) in the mrpackages folder, which you'll find at the root of your Kindle over USB, then eject & unplug you Kindle.

Finally, enter ;log mrpi in the Homescreen's searchbar (in a similar fashion as what you had to do during the Jailbreak), and wait for MRPI to do its thing.
When the UI finishes restarting, you should end up with a KUAL entry in your Library (showing as a personal document).
KOA user here. I've followed these instructions but it doesn't add a KUAL entry to my library.

After entering ;log mrpi, I can't exactly remember all the message, but it was something like "Hush little baby, installing, Destroying Package, Restarting UI" and then the Kindle reboots with the picture of a tree.

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Old 07-24-2016, 04:28 PM   #1568
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Check the MrPI logs in [userstore]/extensions/MRInstaller/log/mrinstaller.log to see what happened.

You may need to use the latest snapshots of MrPI to make sure your device is supported (your profile says you have an Oasis).
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:38 PM   #1569
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Check the MrPI logs in [userstore]/extensions/MRInstaller/log/mrinstaller.log to see what happened.

You may need to use the latest snapshots of MrPI to make sure your device is supported (your profile says you have an Oasis).
You are correct! I updated to the latest snapshot and it's now working. Thanks.
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Old 08-02-2016, 04:18 AM   #1570
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downgraded my dad's kindle to 5.4.5 and rejailbroke it. Installed KUAL, Python, screenssavers hack. Can I go back up to firmware 5.8.1 and still be jailbroken? Do I need a hotfix before doing so? Please advise. Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:35 AM   #1571
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downgraded my dad's kindle to 5.4.5 and rejailbroke it. Installed KUAL, Python, screenssavers hack. Can I go back up to firmware 5.8.1 and still be jailbroken? Do I need a hotfix before doing so? Please advise. Thanks in advance.
Please give us the link to the directions you where following.

All of your questions are answered at this link:
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Thanks. At what point after resetting my device do I reenter my Amazon credentials into the device?

I copied everything from documents, found device nickname PW2, reset device, downloaded update_PW2_5.4.3.2_initial.bin

I see a menu of language choice, when I choose English, I saw the root on my kindle and moved the .bin file there.

downgraded FW to 5.4.3.2, unRAR the kindle-5.4-jailbreak.zip into kindle root and run. See **** JAILBREAK **** at bottom of screen.

Now I can upgrade back to 5.8.1 and reinstall KUAL, KUAL PLUS, and Screensaver Hack??
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Thanks. At what point after resetting my device do I reenter my Amazon credentials into the device?

I copied everything from documents, found device nickname PW2, reset device, downloaded update_PW2_5.4.3.2_initial.bin

I see a menu of language choice, when I choose English, I saw the root on my kindle and moved the .bin file there.

downgraded FW to 5.4.3.2, unRAR the kindle-5.4-jailbreak.zip into kindle root and run. See **** JAILBREAK **** at bottom of screen.

Now I can upgrade back to 5.8.1 and reinstall KUAL, KUAL PLUS, and Screensaver Hack??
Please read the directions:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=275877
All your questions are answer there.
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:10 PM   #1574
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I know, all of the answers are there, but do I install any of the other hacks before running the update back to 5.8.1, or is afterwards OK
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:28 PM   #1575
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