07-31-2009, 11:07 AM | #16 |
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Hell then I might as well sue SONY I can't tell you many times I've lost bookmarks due to sony's buggy software.
I think this is a bogus case, but after that lady that sued McDonalds for burning herself, anything is possible. =X= |
07-31-2009, 11:26 AM | #17 |
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I can barely use that keyboard for a simple author search. Are there really any people who use it for notes that extensive?
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07-31-2009, 11:28 AM | #18 |
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How much is a few hours of a 17 year old kid's time "worth"? $10?
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07-31-2009, 11:32 AM | #19 | |
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07-31-2009, 11:33 AM | #20 | |
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I would therefore say, his time (while probably is cheaper) might just be worth as much or more than mine or yours. Or is my logic faulty? - Ahi |
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07-31-2009, 11:37 AM | #21 | |
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Sure it's a stretch, but I'm sure his lawyer has some imagination. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants
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First, he's not an adult in the US until he's 18. This is not "ageism," it's a legal definition; he's still a minor. Second, he's still a student. Even if he wasn't, 17 year olds who pull down $70k a year or make $200 an hour are, to put it mildly, a rarity. That said, I don't believe there is a specific formula that is used to determine damages, and it's probably not based in this case on something like "lost wages." |
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07-31-2009, 07:09 PM | #24 |
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Is that actually relevant?
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So they owe for those few hours of work, plus the extra hours he has to spend scrabbling to make up for it, plus something for the stress. (All those are a small-ish collection.) Plus legal fees, and that's where it gets outrageous... because if he could just submit an invoice to Amazon and say, "you cost me 3 hours work, 2 hours make-up work, and 5 hours panicking from stress--pay up," he wouldn't need a lawyer. Since Amazon won't pay up without a court ruling, they get to pay for the cost of the proceedings, if it goes against them. (Oh, and how much the teenager's time is worth--US Federal minimum wage is now $7.25/hour. In my state it's $8/hour. So, before the lawyers are involved, we'd be arguably looking at $50-150 worth of damages, with the high end of that being possible if you rate his work as skilled labor. And there's something very wrong with not being able to go to court & get a ruling for that amount.) |
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07-31-2009, 07:52 PM | #26 |
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What just bugs me the absolute most about this whole thing . . .
Why couldn't Amazon have stopped selling the book, then turned the money received for it over to the publisher. This would have adequately covered the publisher's profits off of the sales. Publishers don't make more than a buck for a paperback of a non upgrade type paperback. Sure, Amazon wouldn't have made money off of them. But the books were bought in good faith. Why tick off thousands of users? Is it just flexing the old Amazon muscles? |
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Since this copy was (I believe) $.99, and the publisher sells authorized copies for $9.99, I suspect they would've demanded what they believed the books were worth, not what Amazon got for them. Amazon was trying to avoid paying the extra $9 per book.
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I also think that had Amazon pulled the book once they realized, then gone to the publishers and explained what had happened, they would have even settled for less than the full 9.99. And there would have been no negative publicity. However, hindsight is 20/20. |
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This student’s case is extreme as actual work was expended, however if I was in the middle of reading a novel and someone took it and destroyed it I’d be seriously P.O.ed! |
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This might even incite others to obtain this book via torrents and darknet sites, as opposed to spending money for another book in case it was pulled again.
Yes, I'm aware they were refunded, but still, the thought of it happening again might deter me. |
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