What happens to notes and marks when you delete a book?

janhall_us · 07-11-2011, 05:42 PM

What happens to notes and marks you've made in a book when you delete that book from the eDGe Library? Are they gone for good or in a special file tied to the book like on Kindle?

Thanks,
Jan

Filark · 07-12-2011, 02:36 AM

I have been guessing they would be gone -- which, if true, means I could end up with a large Library. Was hoping someone would answer you, but maybe tomorrow I will experiment and find out for sure.

Filark · 07-13-2011, 01:41 AM

Hi janhall!

I tried a few things today. I know that if you annotate a DRM-free epub in your Library, then delete it and add it to your Library again the markings are gone. The same seems to be true (test not complete) for DRM epubs that live in the Digital Editions folder on the eDGe.

I noticed that a few of my pdfs in the Digital Editions folder have annotation files buried deeper in that folder, so I am wondering if pdfs are treated differently. Haven't experimented with them yet but I will. Unless, of course, you have already found the answers!

ivanjt · 07-13-2011, 05:31 PM

Wasn't there something about this subject on the old forums, or is my memory slipping?

janhall_us · 07-13-2011, 07:41 PM

Thanks for all the checking. I just haven't had the time to experiment and it occurred to me after I'd deleted several annotated books off my eDGe that I'd probably lost my notes! Grrrr! I thought I'd seen somewhere here that there's a system library they're saved in so I was hoping it treated them the same as the Kindle and they would reattach if the book was re-added.

Thanks again for your help!
Jan

Filark · 07-13-2011, 08:46 PM

I'm gonna check Ivan's memory and do some searching. That and I haven't finished my experiments. Any of your books pdfs, janhall??

janhall_us · 07-14-2011, 07:37 AM

You can use the one here: http://db.tt/u4suZO7

ivanjt · 07-14-2011, 04:20 PM

I have a PDF file I got from one of the app devs on the old forum called EdgeLibraryNotes that gives the structure of the dirs and which contains what. I can post it if anyone thinks it would be useful.

I also have several text files copied from the old forum. One about the journal files is below.

OK, here is what I found.

Journal files are indeed stored in
/sdcard/.edge/.esi-content
and have extension .esj

These files appear to be xournal files, but you cannot open them with xournal. You need to do the following first:
copy foo.esj to another machine with xournal installed.
mv foo.esj foo.gz
unzip foo.gz

Then open foo with text editor, and replace line
<page width="396.00" height="540.00" tabname="">
with line
<page width="396.00" height="540.00">

Then do:
gzip foo
mv foo.gz foo.xoj

The resulting foo.xoj file can then be opened with xournal. I guess I will simply write a script which does this automatically.

07-11-2011, 05:42 PM	#1
janhall_us Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 22360 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle2, Pocket eDGe, (full-size) eDGe, Nexus 7, Galaxy Note 10.1	What happens to notes and marks when you delete a book? What happens to notes and marks you've made in a book when you delete that book from the eDGe Library? Are they gone for good or in a special file tied to the book like on Kindle? Thanks, Jan

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07-12-2011, 02:36 AM	#2
Filark Armed with a smile :) Posts: 1,421 Karma: 2463560 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California, USA Device: enTourage eDGe & Pocket eDGe, Samsung Galaxy Note II	I have been guessing they would be gone -- which, if true, means I could end up with a large Library. Was hoping someone would answer you, but maybe tomorrow I will experiment and find out for sure.

07-13-2011, 01:41 AM	#3
Filark Armed with a smile :) Posts: 1,421 Karma: 2463560 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California, USA Device: enTourage eDGe & Pocket eDGe, Samsung Galaxy Note II	Hi janhall! I tried a few things today. I know that if you annotate a DRM-free epub in your Library, then delete it and add it to your Library again the markings are gone. The same seems to be true (test not complete) for DRM epubs that live in the Digital Editions folder on the eDGe. I noticed that a few of my pdfs in the Digital Editions folder have annotation files buried deeper in that folder, so I am wondering if pdfs are treated differently. Haven't experimented with them yet but I will. Unless, of course, you have already found the answers!

07-13-2011, 05:31 PM	#4
ivanjt Guru Posts: 858 Karma: 1027478 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South of France Device: kindle dx; eDGe	Wasn't there something about this subject on the old forums, or is my memory slipping?

07-13-2011, 07:41 PM	#5
janhall_us Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 22360 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle2, Pocket eDGe, (full-size) eDGe, Nexus 7, Galaxy Note 10.1	Thanks for all the checking. I just haven't had the time to experiment and it occurred to me after I'd deleted several annotated books off my eDGe that I'd probably lost my notes! Grrrr! I thought I'd seen somewhere here that there's a system library they're saved in so I was hoping it treated them the same as the Kindle and they would reattach if the book was re-added. Thanks again for your help! Jan

07-13-2011, 08:46 PM	#6
Filark Armed with a smile :) Posts: 1,421 Karma: 2463560 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California, USA Device: enTourage eDGe & Pocket eDGe, Samsung Galaxy Note II	I'm gonna check Ivan's memory and do some searching. That and I haven't finished my experiments. Any of your books pdfs, janhall??

07-14-2011, 07:37 AM	#7
janhall_us Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 22360 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle2, Pocket eDGe, (full-size) eDGe, Nexus 7, Galaxy Note 10.1	You can use the one here: http://db.tt/u4suZO7

07-14-2011, 04:20 PM	#8
ivanjt Guru Posts: 858 Karma: 1027478 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South of France Device: kindle dx; eDGe	I have a PDF file I got from one of the app devs on the old forum called EdgeLibraryNotes that gives the structure of the dirs and which contains what. I can post it if anyone thinks it would be useful. I also have several text files copied from the old forum. One about the journal files is below. OK, here is what I found. Journal files are indeed stored in /sdcard/.edge/.esi-content and have extension .esj These files appear to be xournal files, but you cannot open them with xournal. You need to do the following first: copy foo.esj to another machine with xournal installed. mv foo.esj foo.gz unzip foo.gz Then open foo with text editor, and replace line <page width="396.00" height="540.00" tabname=""> with line <page width="396.00" height="540.00"> Then do: gzip foo mv foo.gz foo.xoj The resulting foo.xoj file can then be opened with xournal. I guess I will simply write a script which does this automatically.

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