02-23-2012, 07:12 PM | #91 | |
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It lets you make files available in a specific geographic location for a limited time. I have no idea if it will ever be useful for anything, but it's an interesting idea. The idea seems to be that you create a kind of file-sharing flash mob by letting people know, "Get to Public Square between noon and four and you can download x." Ultimately though, your idea is still a highly artificial constraint and a diversion of resources toward making the product less useful. The problem with DRM isn't just that it's done poorly, but that it's a fundamentally bad idea. Colluding to hobble every product on the market is much more antisocial than file-sharing. |
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02-23-2012, 07:21 PM | #92 | |
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I shouldn't need to buy a 2nd copy of a ebook if I want my wife or my buddy to read it. It's stupid and counter-productive. Word of mouth, loans, and libraries is how people try out new books and new authors. Publishers are digging their own grave, just like the music industry was doing for so long in the late 90s/early 2000s. Last edited by GreenMonkey; 02-23-2012 at 07:25 PM. |
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02-23-2012, 07:26 PM | #93 | |
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the decline also seems to coincide with when the playstation was introduced and video games exploded with the general populace. maybe the simplest solution is the correct one: people are just buying other stuff with their money. *shrug*. i used to buy a bleep-load of cds, now i buy maybe 2 a year. i just don't follow music anymore and would rather buy books or games. something had to give. |
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02-23-2012, 07:36 PM | #94 | |
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I don't buy as much music as I used to, anymore. I have a massive CD collection, I can hardly keep up with all the CBC podcasts I download, and every now and then I hear more music on the radio and youtube. Same with books, movies, etc. I'm in my 40's and have spent most of my life acquiring the stuff that makes me "me". |
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02-23-2012, 07:50 PM | #95 | |
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I hate to post this a second time in the same thread, but it's relevant: This doesn't mean that there's no losses due to piracy, but let's keep things in the proper perspective - content producers are making more money now than ever have thanks to the internet. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 02-23-2012 at 07:52 PM. |
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02-23-2012, 07:56 PM | #96 | |
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an even more simple answer: maybe people just don't like whats being put out. the late 90s and this past decade saw a shift in the industry from artists who put out true, complete albums towards those who have a hit single or whose songs make a snazzy ringtone. if only 1 or 2 songs on the cd are good people are only going to buy those 1 or 2 songs thanks to the ability of this internet gizmo. the late 90s, along with the rise of the internet, also saw the explosion of indie bands and the ability of said bands to sell their music directly to fans through things like youtube and social media. these bands aren't necessarily tracked through industry methods. i think its just far more complex than the blanket "sales are down? people are stealing it" answer that the industry loves to give. |
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02-23-2012, 08:17 PM | #97 |
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I know music sales are way down in my house over 10 years ago - I think I'm aging out of the rock scene. Anyway, I'd just as soon listen to audiobooks as I would music these days. The only one who buys music in our house anymore is my daughter, and she buys rarely... again not so much because of piracy as because it's getting harder for her to find bands that she likes and follows.
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02-23-2012, 08:31 PM | #98 | |
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How much is attribuable to piracy? 90%, 9% 0.9%. <SHRUG> mutliple people have pointed to reasons for the drop in recorded sales. All of them perfectly valid. The shift to single tracks instead of forcing the consumer to buy large blocks of track and higher prices for just the few they wanted? Completion of the analog to digital conversions from the 80's and 90's. All potential causes of LARGE drops by themselves. Combined? Even more likely. But the only drum you can seem to hit is piracy. What you fail to acknowledge is things like CD's and DVD's are <durable>, they last <decades>. It's not soda pop, and you won't ever make it into a soda pop product.... Last edited by Greg Anos; 02-24-2012 at 10:47 AM. Reason: typos |
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02-23-2012, 08:35 PM | #99 | |
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Sadly, it looks like they're being allowed to win the fight against the right of first sale for digital products by claiming they're "licensed", not sold, even though such a "license" is virtually never disclosed at time of sale, instead being put in clickwrap EULAs for software and tucked away in the dark corners of store sites where virtually no one who isn't specifically looking for it will notice. |
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02-23-2012, 08:39 PM | #100 | |
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I have enough music that were I to listen to them all end-to-end, it would probably take weeks to hear to the end. Maybe months. So I don't actually buy more music unless it's an artist I REALLY care about. (And that is 99% of the time going to be a filk artist. LOL, RIAA!) Now, I buy more books than I will ever read. So probably some people buy more music than they will ever listen to. But probably not the majority. I will say something else, though. One reason I rarely buy modern/mainstream music is because I don't HEAR it. Once the radio stations started getting all chatty all the time, I turned them off. (And I discovered filk through Napster, back when I was young and I didn't know that was illegal.) So, way to go, music industry, for pursuing a "pay to hear" policy that effectively means that I NEVER get modern music stuck in my head, causing me to head over to Amazon MP3 store for a fix. And, book industry, please feel free to do the exact same thing. LOL, our society! |
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That's another factor - the Baby Boomers hitting their 50s and beyond in the late 90s. At that age, you tend not to buy much in the way of new music (always exceptions, of course), especially not new modern music. Actually, I personally don't know anyone over 50 who's bought new music in the last decade - everyone that age I know mainly sticks to radio (either country or classic rock, at home or in the car).
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02-23-2012, 09:30 PM | #102 | |
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I also have gone the route of playing music to entertain myself, too. I have two guitars, a ukulele, a piano, my kids have various instruments, my husband plays viola. I'm by no means professional, but I get satisfaction and pleasure out of being able to sing "Sunshine on my Shoulders" whenever the mood strikes me. Heh, this has nothing to do with the Pirate Bay, but those pirates better not steal my guitar! |
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02-23-2012, 09:52 PM | #103 |
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Demographics drive just about everything in an advanced economy. Wait till the baby boomers start retiring and downsizing their homes. Can't wait to find out how piracy is hurting house sales!
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02-23-2012, 09:53 PM | #104 |
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I'm pretty much of the exact same vintage, but I find myself buying more music than ever. However, I'm probably very much an aberration both in habit and taste in music. I've moved gradually backwards in time over the last few years and now prefer music from before the 17th century and/or from very foreign shores. None of it released by the big labels, but by small boutique labels and ensembles. Modern music? I might pick up one or two CDs per year, or three in a good one. The thought of paying good money for an MP3 file would never enter my mind.
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