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Old 05-02-2010, 03:52 PM   #16
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:40 PM   #17
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Here in Australia we pay people to have babies. Seems to only encourage the ones who shouldn't be having the to begin with though so I'm not sure it's a great idea.

On top of that just about every tax cut ever announced is given to families so in effect people with no children are being taxed more than those with children. Not really different to being fined for not having children.

And all this is going on while we argue about whether we should take more refugees and immigrants!
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:47 PM   #18
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I cannot have a baby, I'm a guy. Can't get pregnant.

I can father a child, but not give birth. That is what the phrase 'have a baby' means to me, pregnancy.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:56 PM   #19
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:05 PM   #20
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Shooooo! We've been doing that in the US for years. Just look at our income tax regulations. We also get charged for not getting married!
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:20 PM   #21
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Hmmm, charging guys for not getting a woman pregnant? The government must be keen on spending heaps of money on DNA tests - how else can they ensure who actually fathered a child.

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Here in Australia we pay people to have babies. Seems to only encourage the ones who shouldn't be having the to begin with though so I'm not sure it's a great idea.

On top of that just about every tax cut ever announced is given to families so in effect people with no children are being taxed more than those with children. Not really different to being fined for not having children.

And all this is going on while we argue about whether we should take more refugees and immigrants!
I agree - incentive payments seem to have led to increased teenage pregnancies here - much easier to collect a couple hundred dollars / fortnight per child than going to school or - higher being forbid - work for it.

I don't mind being 'penalised' for not having children - give support to families. Hard enough for most of them. What annoys me that the penalties go up and up and up and the government still thinks childless couples need to get penalised even more. Seems a tad unfair to those who would love a child, can't have one and are not allowed to adopt here in Australia.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:32 PM   #22
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Hmmm, charging guys for not getting a woman pregnant? The government must be keen on spending heaps of money on DNA tests - how else can they ensure who actually fathered a child.



I agree - incentive payments seem to have led to increased teenage pregnancies here - much easier to collect a couple hundred dollars / fortnight per child than going to school or - higher being forbid - work for it.

I don't mind being 'penalised' for not having children - give support to families. Hard enough for most of them. What annoys me that the penalties go up and up and up and the government still thinks childless couples need to get penalised even more. Seems a tad unfair to those who would love a child, can't have one and are not allowed to adopt here in Australia.
Without the generous baby bonus, the less fortunate of us would never be able to afford a big plasma TV with Austar/Foxtel. Unless some "good sports with money" will let them have it "now".

Its a bit like the tobacco tax (pheww I am glad I gave up). Wait a minute the tobacco tax is designed to claw back the baby bonus huh?
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:46 PM   #23
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Without the generous baby bonus, the less fortunate of us would never be able to afford a big plasma TV with Austar/Foxtel. Unless some "good sports with money" will let them have it "now".

Its a bit like the tobacco tax (pheww I am glad I gave up). Wait a minute the tobacco tax is designed to claw back the baby bonus huh?
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:27 AM   #24
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As I said it before, men are going to be charged for not making women pregnant.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:53 AM   #25
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Hmmm, charging guys for not getting a woman pregnant? The government must be keen on spending heaps of money on DNA tests - how else can they ensure who actually fathered a child.
That's what I was thinking as well...


This is a silly law... Besides, it's still cheaper to get a fine than to have a kid or two...
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:07 AM   #26
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But funny!

I was at a multi-agency conference for services that work with young people, taking part in a multi-agency focus group that had to address a number of questions and write up their answers on post-it notes. The question was:

What are you doing to address the problem of teenage pregnancy?

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I was at a multi-agency conference for services that work with young people, taking part in a multi-agency focus group that had to address a number of questions and write up their answers on post-it notes. The question was:

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He did have a quick mind!
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:40 AM   #28
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What, exactly, was he wagging?
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He was wagging his duty to impregnate! Like wagging school.
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