Today Amazon locked up the Android ecosystem

RockdaMan · 03-29-2011, 05:31 PM

Interesting editorial.

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One day folks are going to realize they are doing all of their Android shopping at Amazon.

Today’s launch of cloud services is the next step in the Android takeover.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-new...ecosystem/1663

kjk · 03-29-2011, 06:08 PM

Do you think Google will allow Amazon to become a "trusted" source of apps at some point?

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...tore-security/

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Amazon’s new app store offers some killer deals and can make it easier for customers to purchase Android software. However, installing it reduces overall security for Android devices, some security experts say.

The root of the issue is the requirement to allow installations from “unknown sources,” in order to put Amazon’s Appstore app on an Android phone. Amazon instructs customers that this option must be enabled to install apps sold through the Amazon Appstore.

Selecting that option immediately puts Android customers at risk to malware that could come from sources that go unchecked by Google and the general Android community, said Charlie Miller, a security researcher well known for finding exploits on mobile devices.

bhartman36 · 03-29-2011, 06:23 PM

Meh. It's kind of hard for me to take seriously any argument that uses conquer as a noun. And the argument is weak. Amazon doesn't want or need to push tablets to get people to buy from Amazon. What's to be gained? They're already accomplishing a lot just by pushing the various apps to every possible platform (including iOS and Android).

kennyc · 03-29-2011, 06:30 PM

From PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/22365...tion_baby.html

fjtorres · 03-29-2011, 07:34 PM

Amazon's push to claim the Android media market makes perfect sense because they're launching into a vacuum and future resistance is going to be minimal; no iTunes for android or even Zune any time soon.
Doesn't mean they have anything sewn up but they should make a nice chunk of change out of the move.

wodin · 03-29-2011, 07:45 PM

Uh, could it be? Sure does look a lot like

Spoiler:

tubemonkey · 03-29-2011, 08:16 PM

I've been freely downloading apps from both Amazon and Google. For the most part, I pay little attention to which one I'm on at the moment.

But then, it really doesn't matter because I only download free apps.

bhartman36 · 03-29-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

I've been freely downloading apps from both Amazon and Google. For the most part, I pay little attention to which one I'm on at the moment.

But then, it really doesn't matter because I only download free apps.

I doubt it's actually going to matter, in practical terms. For now, Amazon has a lot fewer apps than the regular Android Marketplace, but it's not like (AFAIK) Amazon isn't letting the Android Marketplace carry Amazon apps. I guess the cloud storage (specifically, the price) is kind of a big deal, but other than that, no.

What would be interesting is if Amazon released the cloud storage and cloud player apps on iOS. That might be a threat to iTunes (which is why I couldn't see Apple allowing the apps on the App Store).

kennyc · 03-29-2011, 08:38 PM

I don't care about iTunes. Soon no one else will either.

tubemonkey · 03-29-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bhartman36

I guess the cloud storage (specifically, the price) is kind of a big deal, but other than that, no.

This is one customer who won't be using their cloud service. I have no need for it.

kennyc · 03-29-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

This is one customer who won't be using their cloud service. I have no need for it.

I'm not fully behind cloud storage either. Loss of control and required data connection being two reasons.

The ability to access your shared data from multiple places though is intriguing.

wodin · 03-29-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I'm not fully behind cloud storage either. Loss of control and required data connection being two reasons.

The ability to access your shared data from multiple places though is intriguing.

There are several solutions for a "personal cloud" both in hardware and software (runs on your PC) and some (nearly all?) of them have Android clients.

boswd · 03-29-2011, 09:44 PM

great service 5G free is pretty sweet. but the uploading times are extremely slow. My library has 200 more songs to go and still has well over an hour to go.

does this sound normal? I mean Media Monkey scanned my entire library in a flash.

kennyc · 03-29-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

There are several solutions for a "personal cloud" both in hardware and software (runs on your PC) and some (nearly all?) of them have Android clients.

Right, but again require connectivity or use or at least to sync up.

Still I think we are rapidly approaching the day when all our devices will be on line and communicating continuously and certainly at that point cloud or virtual cloud or personal cloud makes tons of sense.

kennyc · 03-29-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd

great service 5G free is pretty sweet. but the uploading times are extremely slow. My library has 200 more songs to go and still has well over an hour to go.

does this sound normal? I mean Media Monkey scanned my entire library in a flash.

They are probably being totally slammed at the moment.

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bhartman36 Wizard Posts: 1,316 Karma: 1515835 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 3 Wi-Fi, Craig CMP738a Android Tablet	Meh. It's kind of hard for me to take seriously any argument that uses conquer as a noun. And the argument is weak. Amazon doesn't want or need to push tablets to get people to buy from Amazon. What's to be gained? They're already accomplishing a lot just by pushing the various apps to every possible platform (including iOS and Android).

03-29-2011, 06:30 PM	#4
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	From PC World: http://www.pcworld.com/article/22365...tion_baby.html

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fjtorres Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000	Amazon's push to claim the Android media market makes perfect sense because they're launching into a vacuum and future resistance is going to be minimal; no iTunes for android or even Zune any time soon. Doesn't mean they have anything sewn up but they should make a nice chunk of change out of the move.

03-29-2011, 08:16 PM	#7
tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,477 Karma: 158151390 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	I've been freely downloading apps from both Amazon and Google. For the most part, I pay little attention to which one I'm on at the moment. But then, it really doesn't matter because I only download free apps.

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kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	I don't care about iTunes. Soon no one else will either.

03-29-2011, 09:44 PM	#13
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	great service 5G free is pretty sweet. but the uploading times are extremely slow. My library has 200 more songs to go and still has well over an hour to go. does this sound normal? I mean Media Monkey scanned my entire library in a flash.

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