12-11-2014, 09:49 AM | #1 | |
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Google News to Pulls out of Spain
Just a bit of background: last month, Spain passed a new law that would require content aggregators pay publishers for snippets of news.
Unlike other countries where publishers have tried to sue Google for Google's use of snippets (and where publishers have typically backed down when Google stopped using snippets from their publications), Spain passed a law (not yet in effect) which provides that publishers have an "inalienable right" to be paid for snippets; the effect of this will be that publishers can't say "no thanks" to getting paid. Not bad for publishers, but maybe bad for others who want aggregators (not just Google) to showcase their stuff and drive traffic their way. It's probably worth pointing out that any publisher that was mad about snippets always had the option of opting-out of Google News if they thought it was a bad deal. Unsurprisingly, Google has just taken the step of announcing that it will be pulling Google News out of Spain, following which Google News will no longer have any Spanish publications. I don't know if a piece of legislation could fail any harder - not only will Spanish publishers not get additional cash from Google, they will probably enjoy far less traffic. From Google: Quote:
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12-11-2014, 10:10 AM | #2 |
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...as expected.
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12-12-2014, 03:19 PM | #4 |
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Well that didn't take long. Spanish newspaper publishers are now begging the government to stop Google News from pulling out of the country:
https://www.thespainreport.com/13199...-news-closure/ |
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As predicted!
Makes perfect sense: Quote:
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12-12-2014, 03:39 PM | #7 |
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They are open to negotiations but Google has not taken a neutral stance.
Translation: we'll settle for *some* money. Doesn't have to be much. Google is right, though. Once the precedent is established that they can be coerced they will be coerced everywhere. There is no room for a "neutral stance". |
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This also sounds like MR will have to disallow any Spanish news articles from being quoted. Otherwise, MR will have to pay.
I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like. |
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It isn't anyone who quotes, only content aggregators have to pay. MR isn't a content aggregator, merely a discussion board that sometimes quotes sources relevant to the topics at hand.
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I'd further qualify that *MobileRead* doesn't quote anything. MR is merely a discussion board where participants sometimes quote sources ...
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The withdrawal of Google from the Spanish market will leave a niche that someone who is willing to pay will fill. That's how the market works. I look forward to seeing alternatives to Google emerge.
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Didn't we see this play out already. European country newsies complain about google. Google stops carrying their content in it's indexes. Traffic to the news sites plummets. Newsies go BACK to Google demanding to be added once again.
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12-13-2014, 12:49 AM | #14 |
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The difference here is that if the synopsis of the Spanish law is correct, Google would need to start paying the Spanish newspapers for the snippets used in their Google News links, which Google has indicated they will not do. If the newspapers get the law repealed, I'm sure Google will be back.
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They can probably file this one under "be careful what you wish for." I've never been able to figure out how it is detrimental to the publishers to have Google point users to their website for free. People pay Google to do that for them in other businesses.
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