A manufacturer wants your opinion on 9.7" device features - Page 6

delphidb96 · 06-08-2010, 03:01 PM

And it *MUST* be an Apple iPad w/64G memory, 48-hour *ON* battery life and a price tag of $49.99 *SANS* AT&T contract!

(Why yes, I *have* been ingesting large quantities of LSD today!

)

Derek

Kellhound · 06-08-2010, 03:18 PM

Document search and dictionary. No need to me for any of the other options on a device for reading books.

Godzil · 06-08-2010, 03:59 PM

Humm the results are really interestings

fishface · 06-08-2010, 04:16 PM

The survey is borked. The options are all, err, options. Read the comments.

Survey: What do you think is most important in designing a new car?
1. Lots of sensors
2. Backlit display
3. Satellite radio
4. Integrated GPS

If you listen to the results you'd build an iphone.

Tattncat · 06-08-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyElfman

Answered !

As to me a reader is by nature a reader and not a tablet, I do not mind having a B&W display. Important features to me are dictionnary, search module, web browser + wifi (for wikipedia, forums like this one, articles, online newspapers, etc ...). A stylus would be useful for the web part.

One thing : battery ! No need to have a color touch screen with 3G if it lasts 10 minutes ...

Ditto!

rhari79 · 06-08-2010, 06:52 PM

The following are also "very" important to me..

-First: Worldwide sales/warranty support (dream bigger..why limit to one country/continent).

-Wide File Format Support
-Open Platform/Extensibility
-Wide Zoom/Font Size adjust support
-Comfortable Double Handed Operation
-Documents Organization/Folder support
-Charge via USB
-Eink/Non-glare-display with Zero-Backlit facility
-Responsive Touchscreen w/o stylus, handwriting, notes support
-Faster processor, more memory(400MHz, 64/128MB are prehistoric)
-Internal memory+SDHC support
-Decent Battery (at least half-a-day would be good).
-Sleep/suspend after timeout
-User replaceable battery

Its surprising how many of the current crop of readers miss out on these, to a point that makes these devices ridiculous to use.

SameOldStory · 06-08-2010, 07:15 PM

Worldwalker, your paranoia is fine keep it up. Or else. We ARE watching you.

My take on this is that it is research on features to include in a tablet/MID system. Possibly for students, military, or businesses. A lot of people noticed that price, an item of importance to consumers, was not in the list.

Dulin's Books · 06-08-2010, 07:46 PM

What i want most in a 9.7" ereader is for the PDF support to be SPECTACULAR. It must have multiple zoom functions for when reflow isnt appropriate and reflow must be excellent when it is.

Zoom must be persistent- once i set it for a pdf it stays for every page until i change it. I want selection zoom like we have with Irex and Onyx to zoom in on specific spots on charts etc. If its multiple column I want to be able to read with them all displayed or just one column at a time (pocketbook).

TOC must work, and also internal links. Footnotes must work and must also get you back to where you were reading EASILY. I must be able to make scribbly notes and clip text for notes- look at how Samsung Hanvon and Plastic Logic allow you to add a sort of sticky note to a spot in the text. As mentioned before bookmarks AND NOTES must be able to move off the reader with the document or with some easily accessed format.

I want a way to download straight to the device- for that I want WIFI. A browser helps you find stuff you want to download- look to the Onyx webkit browser as an example. A soft keyboard for making notes and for posting small responses on sites like Mobile Read is very useful. I can use that to look at my gmail and respond if i need to.

I want to be able to have multiple documents and books "open" at once and be able to quickly move back and forth between them while doing research/studying.

ODS is a nice feature and I also want something like DLNA or WIFI Direct http://www.wi-fi.org/news_articles.p...ws&news_id=909 so its easier for people to share content between their own devices and with others. If I have a copy of some office report I want another person to see , being able to "hand it over" with wifi direct built into devices would make it much easier then opening up an email and sending an attachment etc

Document search and folder support, dictionaries(adding your own) is a MUST for any decent ereader going forward. So is the open architecture for a community of users to build around . All the font support and formats and customization abilities mentioned by kacir i.e look at PocketBook firmware.

Several people in this thread seem opposed to anything that does more than casual novel or non fiction reading. I think that in this size its got to be more- there is more reading done than just book reading. Work and Professional documents, Email and News, Magazines for recreation or professional reading, education, this forum and others etc etc etc. this is all reading that I will want to do on this size of a device too.

To be an excellent reading device it must be capable of doing ALL of this reading well and it must be flexible enough to make it comfortable for me- changing fonts and spacing and margins. I must be able to mark up documents or make notes and pass them off to professors/students/colleagues/friends/family etc

ALL on an e-ink display(color when available for those mags and "photography" books) and it must cost less than the next closest thing that can play video. and weeks of battery life (when wifi is off of course)

SameOldStory · 06-08-2010, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

What i want most in a 9.7" ereader is for the PDF support to be SPECTACULAR.

To be an excellent reading device it must be capable of doing ALL of this reading well and it must be flexible enough to make it comfortable for me- changing fonts and spacing and margins. I must be able to mark up documents or make notes and pass them off to professors/students/colleagues/friends/family etc

ALL on an e-ink display(color when available for those mags and "photography" books) and it must cost less than the next closest thing that can play video. and weeks of battery life (when wifi is off of course)

God could have made the earth and the stars. And all life on earth.

Or he could have made a 9.7" ereader with everything you hope for.

He took the easy way out.

Color would be important to me to read manuals and trace circuits in diagrams.

But what you wrote made me think. A reader that size could allow for a split screen. Now that would be something unique.

FizzyWater · 06-09-2010, 01:39 AM

Personally, I have no interest in a 9.7" device. It just seems to big for casual reading. So I didn't choose ANY of the options.

dmaul1114 · 06-09-2010, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FizzyWater

Personally, I have no interest in a 9.7" device. It just seems to big for casual reading. So I didn't choose ANY of the options.

That's a problem I have with these 9.7" devices.

For most they're too big for casual reading of novels or any other type of straight text.

But they're still too small for 8.5"x11" documents in portrait mode, magazines, comics etc.

Sweetpea · 06-09-2010, 02:19 AM

Wifi: so I can get to internet and check my online sources for books (such as MobileRead!) and forums (such as MobileRead!) Also, the ability to connect to my server and NAS at home would be very nice indeed.

Touch Screen: I would like to be able to annotate (for correcting) the books I'm reading so I can go back to the source and update it accordingly.

Stylus: Finger is nice, but not accurate enough. I have thick fingers...

Colour screen: a must-have. A 9.7" device would be used a lot for comics by me and thus colour is required.

Web-browser: see Wifi

Document Search: I'll be putting a lot of documents on it, searching through them would be very helpful!

Dictionary: my English isn't perfect, there are still words I don't know and having to look them up at a later date is annoying. I prefer to find them immediately (even when I don't have access to wifi!)

Other (please specify): (I know, it's not there, but still

) not too many buttons on the device (please, no onboard keyboard! they only make a device cumbersome), but a previous/next and menu button would be very handy.

Sweetpea · 06-09-2010, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

The problem I see with this is that since the options given are not those useful for ebook readers -- they're features of tablets -- the predetermined result of this survey is going to be "people want tablets". There is no option for "I don't want a tablet, I want a ebook reader."

I still see them as an e-reader. Having a browser doesn't make it a tablet... Or does it having a colour screen make it tablet? Oh, I know, the ability to play video and/or music make it tablet! Which means my Mini is half a tablet then...

astra · 06-09-2010, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

That's a problem I have with these 9.7" devices.

For most they're too big for casual reading of novels or any other type of straight text.

But they're still too small for 8.5"x11" documents in portrait mode, magazines, comics etc.

I agree. I would prefer 8" eInk based eBook reader. It would make much more sense.

mtravellerh · 06-09-2010, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

I still see them as an e-reader. Having a browser doesn't make it a tablet... Or does it having a colour screen make it tablet? Oh, I know, the ability to play video and/or music make it tablet! Which means my Mini is half a tablet then...

What's a Mini?

View Poll Results: What features are required for a 9.7’’ e-reader ?
Wifi	378	64.40%
3G	121	20.61%
Touch screen	334	56.90%
Stylus	196	33.39%
Color screen	213	36.29%
Email	125	21.29%
Web Browser	231	39.35%
Document search	393	66.95%
Dictionary	413	70.36%
Music player	84	14.31%
Video player	58	9.88%
OPDS compatibility	104	17.72%
Just show me the results	28	4.77%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 587. You may not vote on this poll

06-08-2010, 04:16 PM	#79
fishface Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 56 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	The survey is borked. The options are all, err, options. Read the comments. Survey: What do you think is most important in designing a new car? 1. Lots of sensors 2. Backlit display 3. Satellite radio 4. Integrated GPS If you listen to the results you'd build an iphone. Last edited by fishface; 06-08-2010 at 04:19 PM.

06-08-2010, 06:52 PM	#81
rhari79 Addict Posts: 375 Karma: 2200000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Device: .*	Major Missing options The following are also "very" important to me.. -First: Worldwide sales/warranty support (dream bigger..why limit to one country/continent). -Wide File Format Support -Open Platform/Extensibility -Wide Zoom/Font Size adjust support -Comfortable Double Handed Operation -Documents Organization/Folder support -Charge via USB -Eink/Non-glare-display with Zero-Backlit facility -Responsive Touchscreen w/o stylus, handwriting, notes support -Faster processor, more memory(400MHz, 64/128MB are prehistoric) -Internal memory+SDHC support -Decent Battery (at least half-a-day would be good). -Sleep/suspend after timeout -User replaceable battery Its surprising how many of the current crop of readers miss out on these, to a point that makes these devices ridiculous to use.

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Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	What i want most in a 9.7" ereader is for the PDF support to be SPECTACULAR. It must have multiple zoom functions for when reflow isnt appropriate and reflow must be excellent when it is. Zoom must be persistent- once i set it for a pdf it stays for every page until i change it. I want selection zoom like we have with Irex and Onyx to zoom in on specific spots on charts etc. If its multiple column I want to be able to read with them all displayed or just one column at a time (pocketbook). TOC must work, and also internal links. Footnotes must work and must also get you back to where you were reading EASILY. I must be able to make scribbly notes and clip text for notes- look at how Samsung Hanvon and Plastic Logic allow you to add a sort of sticky note to a spot in the text. As mentioned before bookmarks AND NOTES must be able to move off the reader with the document or with some easily accessed format. I want a way to download straight to the device- for that I want WIFI. A browser helps you find stuff you want to download- look to the Onyx webkit browser as an example. A soft keyboard for making notes and for posting small responses on sites like Mobile Read is very useful. I can use that to look at my gmail and respond if i need to. I want to be able to have multiple documents and books "open" at once and be able to quickly move back and forth between them while doing research/studying. ODS is a nice feature and I also want something like DLNA or WIFI Direct http://www.wi-fi.org/news_articles.p...ws&news_id=909 so its easier for people to share content between their own devices and with others. If I have a copy of some office report I want another person to see , being able to "hand it over" with wifi direct built into devices would make it much easier then opening up an email and sending an attachment etc Document search and folder support, dictionaries(adding your own) is a MUST for any decent ereader going forward. So is the open architecture for a community of users to build around . All the font support and formats and customization abilities mentioned by kacir i.e look at PocketBook firmware. Several people in this thread seem opposed to anything that does more than casual novel or non fiction reading. I think that in this size its got to be more- there is more reading done than just book reading. Work and Professional documents, Email and News, Magazines for recreation or professional reading, education, this forum and others etc etc etc. this is all reading that I will want to do on this size of a device too. To be an excellent reading device it must be capable of doing ALL of this reading well and it must be flexible enough to make it comfortable for me- changing fonts and spacing and margins. I must be able to mark up documents or make notes and pass them off to professors/students/colleagues/friends/family etc ALL on an e-ink display(color when available for those mags and "photography" books) and it must cost less than the next closest thing that can play video. and weeks of battery life (when wifi is off of course)

06-09-2010, 01:39 AM	#85
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	Personally, I have no interest in a 9.7" device. It just seems to big for casual reading. So I didn't choose ANY of the options.

06-09-2010, 02:19 AM	#87
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	Wifi: so I can get to internet and check my online sources for books (such as MobileRead!) and forums (such as MobileRead!) Also, the ability to connect to my server and NAS at home would be very nice indeed. Touch Screen: I would like to be able to annotate (for correcting) the books I'm reading so I can go back to the source and update it accordingly. Stylus: Finger is nice, but not accurate enough. I have thick fingers... Colour screen: a must-have. A 9.7" device would be used a lot for comics by me and thus colour is required. Web-browser: see Wifi Document Search: I'll be putting a lot of documents on it, searching through them would be very helpful! Dictionary: my English isn't perfect, there are still words I don't know and having to look them up at a later date is annoying. I prefer to find them immediately (even when I don't have access to wifi!) Other (please specify): (I know, it's not there, but still ) not too many buttons on the device (please, no onboard keyboard! they only make a device cumbersome), but a previous/next and menu button would be very handy.

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